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Rambo560
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posted 11-07-2000 05:37 PM     Profile for Rambo560   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This sim is FUN. Just might be the best ever.
There are no real weaknesses and alot of strong points, here. Graphics, Sounds, Flight modeling, Campaign, Mission editor, Radio chatter, wingman commands.......
Wow.
Well done, Microsoft.

It's fun with a capital F.



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stag

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posted 11-07-2000 05:38 PM     Profile for stag     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's a good primer. Get yourself thouroughly into this sim.

Then graduate to EAW


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Ajax
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posted 11-07-2000 05:50 PM     Profile for Ajax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
...then you'll be able to decide
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bisher
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posted 11-07-2000 06:01 PM     Profile for bisher   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
rambo560

its great to hear someone say something so positive about cfs2, we have heard so many complaints that this is refreshing.

i agree that cfs2 has reached the next level of flight simin. if nothing else it has provided us simers with a glimps of the fantastic opportunities of sims to come

i have tried eaw, i did not think much of it, so i guess its all really subjective as to whats the best.


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stag

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posted 11-07-2000 06:36 PM     Profile for stag     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bish, If, you've not tried it in the past two months, you've not tried it

IMHO it will be THE yardstick For a Long time Yet.


Good Hunting!

BTW, when EAW first came out, I was put off by the crap Demo. I'm in at the ground floor of CFS2 and I will stay here. In a couple of years this sim has the potential to surpass EAW; But until then, I suggest you take a close look at EAW; the finest WW2 Flight sim to date.


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Teisco
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posted 11-07-2000 07:25 PM     Profile for Teisco   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I just am amazed. How do them planes fly in EAW when they can't move their ailerons or elevators or rudders. Must be magic.
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von_M
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posted 11-07-2000 07:36 PM     Profile for von_M   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Teisco:
I just am amazed. How do them planes fly in EAW when they can't move their ailerons or elevators or rudders. Must be magic.

Moving control surfaces do not a good sim make.. *cough*SDOE*cough*.


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posted 11-07-2000 07:38 PM     Profile for stag     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Dunno. when you're neck deep with bandits, trying to get your squadron to perform some kind of concerted attack against 40 plus bombers and umpteen fighters, while hoping your section will stay with you, you don't have time to notice.
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posted 11-07-2000 08:13 PM     Profile for Hunedog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
All I can say EAW and CFS2 are 2 different concepts and I'm glad to own them both. Both have their share of warts but in the long run, Their good points far outweigh their bad ones. All IMHO of course.
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bonzo
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posted 11-07-2000 10:28 PM     Profile for bonzo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
the speed immersion in eaw aint what it should be... the damage modeling is none existant...on the other hand the campaign model in csf2 isnt what it should be either
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OldFrenchy
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posted 11-07-2000 11:13 PM     Profile for OldFrenchy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What is extraordinary about EAW is the myriad of modifications available for this 2yr+ old sim.
Also, check out how many people engage the Combatsim EAW Forum. This is an enduring (and evolving) piece of work. I expect the same thing to happen to CFS2.

[This message has been edited by OldFrenchy (edited 11-07-2000).]


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cenkog
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posted 11-07-2000 11:46 PM     Profile for cenkog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I don't want to act unjustly about this sim. In fact simulation level(Hardcore),clickable cockpits,damage modelling,realistic sounds,aircraft modelling,terrain,scenery,changeable weather are excellent special features.And these ones more superior than Jane's WWII fighters. But FMs of this sim are open to doubt.

[This message has been edited by cenkog (edited 11-07-2000).]


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posted 11-08-2000 12:08 AM     Profile for Warspite   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well for me this IS the best WW2 air combat sim I have ever had the pleasure of playing!

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-Warspite-

CFS2 Mission Storage Page
http://hometown.aol.com/warspite2


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Rambo560
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posted 11-08-2000 11:47 AM     Profile for Rambo560   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nice to hear the support for CFS2. It is truly immersive.

By the way, all of the EAW fans are right as well...EAW was (is) a remarkable product. It is two years old and holds up better than many NEW products!!! It is a great sim. It will never leave my hard drive. Ditto for Falcon4. Microprose's double GOLD.

However, CFS2 superior flight modeling, damage, sounds, scenery, weather, dogfighting and just about everything else....
is SPECTACULAR.


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Hertston
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posted 11-08-2000 01:10 PM     Profile for Hertston   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
"However, CFS2 superior flight modeling, damage, sounds, scenery, weather, dogfighting and just about everything else....
is SPECTACULAR."

It's a good sim, but, um, "Superior" flight modelling ?

You miss out one (major, there are others) thing that for me spoils any chance of CFS 2 becoming a sim standard - the terrible pilot AI.

An experiment for you all. Set up a one-one dogfight (no advantage) in "Quick Combat" with all difficulty settings maxed. See how many times you get shot down first ! I freely confess to being a very average pilot (in Mig Alley in a similar set-up I often lose, and am frequently unable to shift a bandit from my tail), but in several hours of trying with CFS 2 the answer in my case was NEVER. Sure, I hit the ground a few times, but never suffered more than a couple of holes in the wings from the AI enemy.

In this respect (perhaps the most important of all) MiG Alley is vastly superior to CFS 2. If Rowan's BoB retains that, with the other features it offers, I can't see CFS 2 coming close... even if it's external plane views are prettier

[This message has been edited by Hertston (edited 11-08-2000).]


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Pasha
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posted 11-08-2000 09:53 PM     Profile for Pasha   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I never understand why people care about readable guages, I've never looked at them.

I don't recall ever having read of anyone in combat checking instruments, I am sure some dead... err... did..



Pasha


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Slingshot
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posted 11-09-2000 12:50 AM     Profile for Slingshot   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Heheh, I don't think Rambo will like Mig Alley even the slightest.

No offense, but it's a tough, tough sim - even tougher for a lousy virtual pilot like me.
But CFS2 ain't that bad (okay, you could check the above sentence to gauge my expertise in sim).


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Rambo560
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posted 11-09-2000 05:06 PM     Profile for Rambo560   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hertston,
I agree w you, Mig Alley enemy AI are the best. Those MiG's are nasty. The sim requires the most astute dogfighting skills. I was the first to buy it at EB here when it came out. It wasn't even on the shelves yet...they had to go in the back room and open the crate to get one out for me. It was my favorite before flying over the Pacific.

However, MA still is not as immersive and as much fun as CFS2 (make no mistake in CFS2 you must check your 6 often... or a Zero WILL take you out).

CFS2 is just more enjoyable and more interesting. It also provides a real feeling of "being there"...perhaps more than any other sim.


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