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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 10-27-2000 04:48 AM     Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Picked it up from EB one and a half hours ago.

Hats off to the MS crew, this one is the dog's bollocks. Incredible, absolutely incredible.

From SWotL to this, in seven years...

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Taka Chutai


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Geo_EAF92
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posted 10-27-2000 07:03 AM     Profile for Geo_EAF92   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm with you all the way there Siggi
was on the doorstep of game at 9am banging on the door and nobody has been able to get any sense out of me since - absolutely the dog's bollocks!!!!

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posted 10-27-2000 07:25 AM     Profile for Yardstick   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
And I'm sitting here at work, looking at the box on my desk. I think I way piss off home early sometime soon and load this sim up - well as it is POETS day.
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phil stanbridge
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posted 10-27-2000 07:29 AM     Profile for phil stanbridge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm looking forward to this one too. This and B172 primarily why I upgraded to my Thunderbird.. Can't wait to try tonight. Just got to get out of work...


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Peter Tsang
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posted 10-27-2000 07:30 AM     Profile for Peter Tsang   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes. This sim is stunning especially the graphics. I missed CFS1 and I tell myself CFS2 is definitely what I have to get as Birthday/Christmas present this year.

It's only the frame rate bleeds when all settings are maximized. I think I need a faster video card.


B Regards
Peter Tsang


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Dada 257th FG
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posted 10-27-2000 08:46 AM     Profile for Dada 257th FG   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jv44~Siggi:
Picked it up from EB one and a half hours ago.

Hats off to the MS crew, this one is the dog's bollocks. Incredible, absolutely incredible.

From SWotL to this, in seven years...



Hey Siggi,

I had the *exact* same reaction a couple of weeks ago when I cracked this one open. Utter amazement and complete joy. Hope you enjoy it as much.

Yes, yes, I realize that there may indeed be faults, (and that it's very hard to praise Miscrosoft for anything hehe), but man, are they outweighed by the goodies.

Add to that the complete expandability factor and this may be one of the best sims in a long time--at least to me.

I too skipped on CFS1, but after jumping into CFS2 and having the complete immersion in the details of just flying the plane, I was soon in flightsim Nirvana.

Time to reread all those PacTheater books I have lying around... hmmm let's see

Fire in the Sky, check.
Samuri!, check
Baa Baa Black Sheep, check
Aces Against Japan, check--well, that should keep me busy for a night or so.

D. "Dada" Miller


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Zurawski
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posted 10-27-2000 10:46 AM     Profile for Zurawski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
...Siggi,

Well, considering how difficult it is to impress "you" ... I must admit your liking CFS2 as-it-stands, speaks volumes!


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posted 10-27-2000 11:13 AM     Profile for Su-27   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Welcome aboard, UK Pilots.

Now you'll see how us yanks handeled the pacific war while you were battling the Luftwaffe.

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Geo_EAF92
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posted 10-27-2000 11:23 AM     Profile for Geo_EAF92   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Su 27, thanks for the welcome aboard!
Considering you guys have had the benefit of a few weeks hands on experience, is there any pearls of wisdom you'd like to pass on to your UK cousins
(both technical and gameplay)

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Wasp
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posted 10-27-2000 06:25 PM     Profile for Wasp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I say, Geo, that SU27 seems quite a friendly sort of chap !
I rather enjoyed today, watching my 13yr old heir knocking seven tons (Imperial not metric) of buggery out of johnny Jap (I had to let him have a go in the end). I thought it was bloody marvellous, good show Microsoft (is one allowed to say that here?).
Looks nice, runs nice, seems to fly alright and hasn't crashed yet. And you can shoot the tail orf a zero ! By George
Must get back at it
Wasp

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AxA
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posted 10-27-2000 07:23 PM     Profile for AxA   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello Wasp, better keep an eye on Junior, though. Next thing you know, he'll be telling you that he rather fly a Corsair than a Spit!

Almost sacreligious....

AxA http://www.FlyAndFight.com


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posted 10-27-2000 09:27 PM     Profile for Hertston   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yup, release day at last.....

Although after 8 hours or so play, I wish I was still sharing you guys' enthusiasm.

CFS2 has a lot going for it, and is without doubt the best looking sim on the market. So why am I already pining for EAW ? Sigh.... Too early to tell if this one is a keeper, one solid weekend of playtesting coming up


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posted 10-27-2000 09:33 PM     Profile for Su-27   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, i got a tip. When you are using the A6M2 shot with MG's first, then when you are hitting the target, deliever the final blow with the 20MM's

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MeatWater
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posted 10-28-2000 03:23 AM     Profile for MeatWater   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah Siggi, this one rocks me bollocks Looks like I can uninstall PAW from that old 486...

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char
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posted 10-28-2000 03:36 AM     Profile for char   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hate to say it, but Eaw is coming off my HD.
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Jv44~Siggi
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posted 10-28-2000 05:18 AM     Profile for Jv44~Siggi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hehe, the old 486...I loved that old rig, till I took it apart with a baseball bat.
I just missed PAW, had AoE though. I had months of fun with that.
1942 Pacific Air War was good too.

So...when is the CFS2 sound-pack coming Nick? The old magic!

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Taka Chutai


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Wasp
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posted 10-28-2000 06:59 AM     Profile for Wasp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
AxA, thanks old man, hadn't considered that ! Must limit his flying hours, wouldn't do to have prefering Corsairs.
Hertson and Char, listen chaps EAW will always leave a special place in all simmers hearts, I pined for it all day yesterday and it is not to be banished from my HD.
Regards chaps
Wasp

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Mk10 225th
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posted 10-28-2000 10:36 AM     Profile for Mk10 225th   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Really the only tip I can give from this side of the pond is one I picked up on this board a while back.

The F4U will flip and flop like a wounded duck, at least with my joystick and the default settings.

Some folks here suggested cutting sensitivity and deadzone to 10-15%, but I left the deadzone at default which is about 25% I think, and adjusted the sensitivity for rudders, elevators, and ailerons to 25% also, and it really smoothed out the stick response for the aircraft.

Good hunting!

Mk10 Maj=225th=


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Dada 257th FG
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posted 10-28-2000 08:19 PM     Profile for Dada 257th FG   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mk10 225th:
Really the only tip I can give from this side of the pond is one I picked up on this board a while back.

The F4U will flip and flop like a wounded duck, at least with my joystick and the default settings.

Some folks here suggested cutting sensitivity and deadzone to 10-15%, but I left the deadzone at default which is about 25% I think, and adjusted the sensitivity for rudders, elevators, and ailerons to 25% also, and it really smoothed out the stick response for the aircraft.

Good hunting!

Mk10 Maj=225th=


Well, I've tried two joysticks, and here's what I found:

Logitech WIngman force: useless. Flight forces, frankly--suck. SOrry to say it. The only real reason (to me) to have a FFB stick is to warn you kinetically of a stall buffet while you're padlocked on a target. Now THAT would be REALLY cool.

It escapes me why I have YET to find a sim that seems to even try to do this simple thing. They can do messages, screen shake, hud airspeed turning colors (EAW), but nothing like a simple stick buffet when you're about to stall. Go figure.

Secondly, the sensitivity/throw of the this controls with this stick also leaves much to be desired. With the elevator sensitivity TURNED DOWN TO PRACTICALLY ZERO, moderate backpressure on the stick will still lurch me into an accel stall. I end up having to fly the sim like it has an F-16 stick, with no more that 1/4 to 1/2 stick movement in any direction to control it really well.

It's a very nice stick (things like NFS have to be felt to be believed), but it's been very disappointing in every flight sim where I've tried it.

So, I'm back to my trusty 'ol F22 pro. Now THIS is flying. Even so, I must also agree that adjusting stick sensitivities is a must.

I goose up the airleons for the best roll rate. For the elevators, I've found that at default, they pull me into an accel stall much too quickly. By simply turning them down by about 1/4, I can now pull a solid 5-6 g's for as long as I want (or until I black out hehe).

The trick is to allow enough sensitivity to acheive maximum g's at 3/4 to full stick pull, (using the hud g meter), but not so sensitive that a 1/4 stick pull already has you in an accelerated stall.

D. "Dada" Miller

[This message has been edited by Dada 257th FG (edited 10-28-2000).]


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darren34
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posted 10-29-2000 08:49 PM     Profile for darren34   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gotta agree with Su-27 there, use the MG then hit the 20's, you'll blow the wing right off a corsair or wildcat. Man, the George was one badboy of a plane too. MUst have been hell flying against that.


darren


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Casey
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posted 10-29-2000 10:04 PM     Profile for Casey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good thing was, the George, like other late-war high-performance Japanese planes, was in short supply and having its assembly plants disrupted (blown to bits) by the time it was in service.

George, Frank, Tony, Tojo,... all decent fighters with much more speed than the Zeke. If I remember correctly, the Frank and George both reached 390-400 mph.


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darren34
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posted 10-30-2000 12:22 AM     Profile for darren34   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, Im beginning to see the advantages in dogfights with the Japanese planes. Just seems like ours turn so slow. Ive also noticed that the american planes go straight up and stall in the single missions, just easy pickins.


darren


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posted 10-30-2000 03:00 AM     Profile for Flanker35M   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
S!

CFS2 finally running on my rig after lowering DirectSound Acceleration to Basic.Before that a crash-o-rama.
The sim is incredible,but what I would like to change is the wimpy sound of those 7.7mm MG's.They sound more "raw" in real than in the sim.Maybe MeatWater could stir up something?

Flanker


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