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Smalltalk_2k
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posted 12-21-1999 02:18 PM     Profile for Smalltalk_2k   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
What plane do you cyberpilots fly most often?


and why?

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Donster
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posted 12-21-1999 02:29 PM     Profile for Donster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
My favorite is the P-38J! Twin engines to get you home, lots of firepower, sturdy, good speed, excellent at ground attack, hauls alot of armament, good vision, looks great!


Donster


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posted 12-21-1999 02:40 PM     Profile for mane_raptor   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
P38 also, but lately I've been flying the P51H, love them 4 20's.

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posted 12-21-1999 02:54 PM     Profile for Gavin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I'm exclusively flying the Hurricane.

(don't all laugh at once)

Why? I'm proceeding through the aircraft series, campaign by campaign. I typically fly 1 mission a night, average of 4 missions a week. I previously had done all 4 standard Battle of Britain a/c's, and a few 'fun' JU88 missions and Ju87 missions after getting ECA, but now I'm back at the beginning again, doing it slow and detailed.

I'm also keeping detailed records of every mission and take 8 - 12 snapshots per mission, then posting them to my squadron page: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/6823/85_sqn_log.html
(I currently don't have time and energy enough to both play games AND do web page editting, so I only have 2 missions up)

I find that when you fly just one plane for a very long time, you develop a real love for it. I hated the Hurricane when I first started, but now I just love the old kite. It can turn on a dime, has lots of ammo, and can take lots of damage. The only drawback is speed, which blows, but is usually good enough unless your up against Ju88's or 110's on a strike mission.

It's also really fun when you change planes suddenly at the start of the new career (Spits are next for me). You get a real appreciation for the differences, which you miss if you just hop around from plane to plane, new flavour every day.

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posted 12-21-1999 03:53 PM     Profile for Buzzard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I like to fly the P-51B in the american campaigns. But it seems that after the patch and downloading ECA 1.4 the P-51B has become a more difficult plane to fly.
I can hold my own against emils but a lone focke-wulf can easily destroy my day. The focke-wulf can easily outturn me.

The spitfire is my favourite in the Battle of Britan campaign. (certainly when there are unescorted Stuka's to destroy).


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posted 12-21-1999 04:59 PM     Profile for Tobiwan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Spitfire IXc (40-odd career missions)

I've flown a few careers in it and I love it! I've flown two GROUND ATTACK careers, a mission for which the Spit is TOTALLY unsuited and it still kicked *** and got me home....usually in pieces though :-)

2nd Place: Spitfire Ia (20-odd careers missions)
3rd Place: P-38J (20+)

The Spitfire IXc is also my fav plane, 2nd place going to a P-47D and third to a Tempest


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posted 12-21-1999 05:01 PM     Profile for Tobiwan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Least flown plane: Bf-109K4

Least fav plane: Bf-110C...I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!


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posted 12-21-1999 05:23 PM     Profile for Airbuddha   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
As far as the 1.2 patch goes, I fly the P-51D, but with ECA 2.0, I find myself flying the F6F-5 Hellcat more and more against AGM2 and AGM5 Zeros. The Hellcat destroys the Zekes using E tactics, but the Zekes will eat you up in a turning fight.

ECA Online has eliminated the porpoising of the P-38. I think it would be my favorite crate in EAW if it didn't bob up and down so bad in hard turns using the stock EAW FM.

Airbuddha


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posted 12-21-1999 07:17 PM     Profile for Blade   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
P47c/d offline.

P51d online, actually anything that fly and let me live a little bit before getting blasted...

Blade


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posted 12-21-1999 07:51 PM     Profile for No105_Archie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I love the Tempest. Fast tough and 4 x 20mm !

Then the Spit IX


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posted 12-21-1999 07:57 PM     Profile for Karnak   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
1. Spitfire Mk XIV (Surprise)
2. Spitfire Mk IX
3. Fw190A-8
4. Bf109G
5. Spitfire Mk Ia

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posted 12-21-1999 09:09 PM     Profile for Slickster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I know I'm a cheating dog, but I fly the P-51H model almost exclusively. No little bitty .50's going dink dink dink. 20mm's chew up the bad guy very satisfactorily. Just wish a bit more ammo. I use 2 at a time fairly often after I hit the guy first. With rudders coordinated my roll rate is almost as good as the Focke. Judicous use of the combat flaps lets me outturn jes 'bout everyone. Basta#$ still stalls in a most rude and embarassing manner, however.

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Casey
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posted 12-21-1999 09:28 PM     Profile for Casey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Great point Gavin.

I was thinking the other day, that I would suggest to rookie pilots, or anyone for that matter, forcing oneself to go through a career with an older, less desireable airplane.

IMHO, this approach has two benefits: first, you learn more about managing your energy in a piece of crap that is underpowered; second, you can really appreciate the newer, more powerful aircraft in the sim.

I just finished a BOB campaign flying a Hurricane. Towards the end, I was getting used to that whimpy powerplant and annoying little .303s.

When I started a new career, with a P-51B, I felt spoiled to have a little power to play with and four .50s in my wings.


Good hunting.


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posted 12-21-1999 10:13 PM     Profile for kjuice   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
at first i flew the 38. but now that i have more xperience i long for somthing with a faster role rate. im leanin to the jug now.
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posted 12-21-1999 11:11 PM     Profile for Storm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I have acquired the most flight time in the Me-109F and FW-190A-8. I'm about equal in both of them. I like the Franz for it's ease of flight and forgivness, and the A-8 for it's punch and pilot protection. I've tried other aircraft to include the P-51's and Spits, but always come back to my fav's.

Storm


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posted 12-22-1999 12:59 AM     Profile for Capitan Manduca   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The Messerschmitt Bf109e. Yeah, I'm always fighting BoB campaigns... When I die, I start again the campaign, the best I have ever done was to reach 1941 and change to the F model, but I was killed... Yes, I'm into an infine loop.

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posted 12-22-1999 01:26 AM     Profile for JG5_Jerry   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I fly the 109E and (sorry Tobiwan) the 110C. I've lmost (?) finished a campaign in the 110 in the BoB too .
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posted 12-22-1999 01:30 AM     Profile for Luciano   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
FW-190A & Tempest
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posted 12-22-1999 07:34 AM     Profile for JG26*vonVampr*Gf   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The butcherbird is the word ! Love the Dora and the A-8 as modeled in ECA on-line . I have to agree with Gavin , fly one plane alot and you learn to love it . I'm only truely comfortable in the FW . I do however enjoy the 109 K-4(hauls butt, can't say *** ) and the Tempest .

von Vampr


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posted 12-22-1999 09:17 AM     Profile for Hun Hunter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I'm with Gavin on this one. The
Hurricane is a sturdy work horse. I've been shot to buggery in that old crate and still managed to get home (well, a quarter mile short of the field )It also makes you appreciate the fluidity of the handling in a Spitfire when you step into one after flying the Hurri for a long campaign. The Spit comes a very close second though. Just what you need when you're hunting Hun. If I'm feeling traitorous, I'll hop into a Emil 3.

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posted 12-22-1999 09:41 AM     Profile for VonBroam   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post

The FW-190 A6 is my bird, talk about roll rate!! After that is the Tempest, which is probably the best fighter in the game.

VonBroam out
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posted 12-22-1999 01:13 PM     Profile for Nashwan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The Tempest and the Spit 14. Anybody who doesn't needs their head tested.

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Ernie
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posted 12-22-1999 01:43 PM     Profile for Ernie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I tend to fly the various Spitfires. Just love their agility!


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posted 12-22-1999 09:50 PM     Profile for Stanley99     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I like the heavies - Me410 B2/U2 !!!!

Given my "sophisticated tactics" (cough, cough) like "get in, get the kill, get lost - who cares about damage" I just need to have 2 engines!

Other planes I like are the P47D, all the Spifires, and the B26 - but I never brought that plane home in one piece... haven't tried the A26 yet - and the newest ECA version wasn't available as I still had the game...

Stan

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posted 12-22-1999 09:51 PM     Profile for Stanley99     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
On second thought...I like them all...although I obviously can't spell SPITFIRE!!!

Stan

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Gavin
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posted 12-23-1999 10:08 AM     Profile for Gavin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Me too. I've got a great big book at home that has every combat plane in every theatre in World War 2, done with beatiful full-colour 3-view plan drawings. if I could fly every one in EAW, I'd be in pure heaven!

Where's the EAW add-on paks, like we got for Secret Weapons, and like CFS is now cranking out?

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posted 12-23-1999 10:18 AM     Profile for Hun Hunter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Whats the book called Gavin? Sounds great

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posted 12-23-1999 10:45 AM     Profile for HarryM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I like the Tempest. Seems to be the best prop plane all-around. Whenever I fly the Spit I alway break it.

I also like the 109K because of it's awesome rate of climb. Always leaves you a way out...


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posted 12-23-1999 12:11 PM     Profile for Gavin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I'll post details of it tomorrow, Hun Hunter. It's the size of a small coffee table and about 2 1/2 inches thick, and cost me around 60 bucks 10 years ago.

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posted 12-23-1999 12:31 PM     Profile for HarryM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Is the book perchance "Great Book of WWII Warplanes"? Saw it recently in a used book shop and thought of getting it. I have the companion volume "Great Book of Modern Warplanes" which is also pretty cool...

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posted 12-23-1999 01:35 PM     Profile for Gavin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
That may be it, and GET IT! It's awesome, especially if you want a great reference for doing skins. The only thing I don't like about it is the way the book is organized, by aircraft company rather than by nationality, or my favorite way - by first year built.

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posted 12-24-1999 07:15 AM     Profile for JWC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Most time: Spitfire MkIX
Others: Me109G-6, P-51B/D, FW190A

--3 campaigns either completed or nearly completed in the Spitfire. (611 Squ., 303 Squ., 441 Squ.)

--1 campaign completed in the Mustang (4th FG) and well into another (357th FG).

--1 long and good career in the Me109G-6/R6 still going (9/III/JG26).....started in early '43 and now in Jan '45--so many bailouts and forced landings I lost count [but I'd estimate about 15....1 due to USAAF fighter/rest to darn bombers!] (also overdue for conversion to 109K-4 for historical accuracy)

--1 career in the FW190A (5/II/JG26) began in early '43, now in summer '44 (old career....started when I was still using cheats like unlimited ammo....when I stopped cheating I started getting a lot of medals including (finally) the Ritterkreuz.

If you include Single Missions, I STILL have more time in the Spitfire than just about everything else. It was the aircraft that I began my EAW combat career in and thus it was the one I "learned to fly and fight" in. Its maneuverability allowed me to stay alive until I figured out how to survive and succeed in the dangerous virtual skies of EAW!


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posted 12-24-1999 08:19 AM     Profile for bhodi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hurr and the Spit 1a.
Love B.O.B. Heroic chaps all.


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posted 12-24-1999 11:33 AM     Profile for Gavin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Harry M, the book I own is 'The Complete Book of World War II Combat Aircraft', originally published in Rome, reprinted by New York Military Press in 1988.

It's awesome.

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posted 12-24-1999 02:39 PM     Profile for HarryM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The one I mentioned looks at fewer types, its more focused on a few of the more famous (not necessarily most successful) aircraft, and has very nice artwork and gatefolds. Have not bought any aviation "tomes" lately, I think I'm due...

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posted 12-24-1999 03:59 PM     Profile for KMHPaladin   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I'm a little in the minority evidently, but my favorite aircraft is the A-26 Invader. Yes, you heard me correctly . For pure amusement, nothing beats about 14 .50's all at once. The Invader is incredible for ground attack missions, and it has the speed to tangle with German fighters with some hope of surviving.

Of course, sometimes I'm looking to fly a single-engine fighter. When that urge strikes, I'll usually take out a P-47, any version, and occasionally a Bearcat using ECA Panel 2.0 (Charles Gunst should be worshipped as a god, I tell you ).

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posted 12-24-1999 04:46 PM     Profile for RossC   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
P-47, razorback or bubble, whichever. Eight .50's and super tough, great airplane. Had one in a 600mph dive the other day, elevators compressed, though, so I died Sentimental favorite, having read and believed Thunderbolt like it was the Bible during my elementary school years.

Tempest is great, too great, so I don't fly it much anymore. The only time I was shot down in it was by ground fire, near invincible in the air. Suckering those 262's into a turning fight was good for the ego, too...

Spit IX, because my grandfather flew them. I only fly for 401 RCAF Sqdn in campaign when I fly those. I am averaging 3 kills/sortie, though, it just feels so fragile...not enough ammo, either. Gotta do the "Hartmann" and get close enough to the EA that you hear your cannon shells exploding on it

Me-262, don't get suckered into a turn fight and you'll kill fighters easy, and simply the best bomber interceptor in the game. 4x30m, diving through the box at 550+. Got 7 B-24's in one mission. A little fragile, though.

~Ross


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Reese
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posted 12-26-1999 09:30 AM     Profile for Reese   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The P-38J is my overall favorite (offline only). I must say though; I like them all and have flown a career in every squadron for both Axis and Allies except Mosquito and B-26.
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posted 12-26-1999 06:03 PM     Profile for Stanley99     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Try the Mosquito, Reese, if you like to bomb and strafe, it's really good for that job!

Stan

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posted 12-27-1999 05:54 AM     Profile for JG5_Volt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
190E4
FW190A4
190G6

online or off although I do like bombing raids in the BF110


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