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Heretic

could i be hired to flak too i love it....

Also if Rowan isn't going to fix their past product - I see no reason to reward them with my money - I don't care how many Spits and Doniers they put in the virtual air.

I bought MiG Alley and I liked it.

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Originally posted by Heretic:
Stop complaining Jg5 its a beta a beta for god sake...
And groucho is not know for the best screenshot taker, but for his acid tongue...

Heretic

could i be hired to flak too i love it....

heretic

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Heretic is right, Groucho's screenshots are of very poor quality. The Jpeg compression is a tad too high, for example, try and read the text at the bottom of the screen, it's a blurred mess.

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Here's an excellent example of the high compression...

PS. Thanks for the preview Groucho, well done!

Lets hope they can clean up the graphics a bit.

I like the campaign idea (strat and tactical) - pretty bummed you can't do MP in camp'n.

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"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States"

Make sure you read Deighton's "Good Bye Mickey Mouse" if you haven't already. An outstanding book of a Mustang pilot in England.

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Cheers,

Stinger

What are the chances of some "good" quality screen
shots?

A Spitfire on the airfield

A 110 Destroyer flying over a damaged hanger

The 110 from another angle..

Here are more screen shots.. http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/previews/BoB/preview/index2.shtml

von Manstein

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Speaking of game play, Groucho, is it too early to compare the campaign game with Grigsby's BoB strategy game? I don't expect nor want an exact match, just a comparitive feel.

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Originally posted by Bismarck:
I really don't sweat graphics all that much gameplay and FM are more important to me.

Speaking of game play, Groucho, is it too early to compare the campaign game with Grigsby's BoB strategy game? I don't expect nor want an exact match, just a comparitive feel.

Jim Cobb

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Hi Jim-
I could give that compro a shot if I knew what the heck Grigsby's BoB Strategy game was.
Seriously, though, even if I was familiar with that particular strategy game (me dumb drooling pilot, ugh, not know strategy) I believe the record run of consecutive missions without a crash was three. Hardly enough to get a 'feel' of anything except frustration.
In all fairness, I was a bit leery of mentioning the instability problems at all. This is, after all, an early beta. Rowan, however, has an unfortunate history of giving up on a sim before it is actually fixed (ahem Mig Alley cough). I considered the mention to be a bit of a warning shot across her bow; we sim geeks are watching closely this time around. Don't blow it.
As far as the graphics go, I really think I hit the nail on the head by saying that they are very MA-based, only with T&L and 32 bit color. It's not an immersion killer or anything, it's just dated-looking. I will have to agree with the poster who maintains that it may be a little late to expect great changes in that department, however. Hopefully they will give it a shot- the eye candy competition is pretty fierce this time out.
I believe it was Winston Churchill himself, however, who uttered the sage phrase: "You can't polish a turd."
Stand by. This sim holds a lot of promise if it can be pulled off in a stable manner, gorgeous graphics or no. Whether it lives up to that promise or not is entirely up to Rowan and Empire Interactive.

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"Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones."
-Major Kong, USAF/SAC
(As played by Slim Pickens in "Dr. Strangelove")

Grigsby's BoB is published by Talonsoft. It's one of those tedious war games only micromanagers can love. Heavy on ops, timing attacks, mixing plane types, setting targets and altitudes, etc, etc. You really don't have to have devoted 30 years to studying the Battle...but it sure helps.

Thanks

1.) Buy European Air War and patch it up with ALL the cool stuff you can find - it is abundant. The BoB campaign in it is primo indeed. IF - and ONLY if you still dont think you have had enough BoB. If you dont have EAW you are missing out indeed !! Then go to #2 below.

2.) WAIT until this thing(BoB) has been out at least two months and do your homework reading up on this site before you buy it. Yep...I thought the few guys bitchin about Mig Alley were all wet until I bought it.I would rather read the comments of fellow simmers than take some magizine reviewers
bastardized opinion on it.

Sage advice. Take it or leave it.

1.Be advised that those screenshots are very low quality jpges. They should not be considered a completely accurate representation of the visuals in the game.

2.Common sense should tell you that the game is using the Mig Alley graphics engine. With Mig Alley so recently released (and so succesful) it would be both absolutely pointless and absolutely impossible for the designers to build a brand new graphics engine. If you want to get a good idea of the game's appearance simply turn on Mig Alley. In Battle of Britain you may see some minor fixes and somewhat different terrain colors (looks a lot greener in those jpegs).

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Originally posted by pcw:
Would someone please tell me how to get the big bold letters when you quote an earlier post?
Peter

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I believe it works from the little icon at the top of the message next to the details on time posted - "reply w/Quote"

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Originally posted by Brian Smith:

I believe it works from the little icon at the top of the message next to the details on time posted - "reply w/Quote"

Smith

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Yippee.

I must say I have been looking foward to this sim scince I read about it here. Yesterday I found a demo on PCGamer magazines cover. The program loaded with no trouble & after launching I found the GUI very easy to configure. The views out of the cockpit were impresive with loads of bombers & fighter cover wheeling about, thats the good bit.

The rest was dissapointing, the cockpit is very simple with only the RMP dial visable in normal view. The foward view is ristricted to the bullitproof section of the pit, this in 12x9 res. To look around you use the hat but if you let go if the hat the view centers & you cant stop it at any point, its constantly moving or centered.

The flight model is.. well words fail me (almost). If its acurate, then how the RAF ever flew the things is beyond me, I looked in one of my Spitfire ref books " It handled smoothly, performed all the usual stunts with ease....It was practicaly viceles.." the thing in BoB flys like the F16 in Falcon4, after you've been shot up & its doing the funky chiken routine, realy horrid. And the game (not the plane ) crashed, alot, ether locking or CTD. This was a demo on the front cover of a gaming magazine avaliable everywhere in the UK, no metion of beta.

I realy wanted this to be a good sim but the demo was very dissapointing.

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Originally posted by Shadow_12TFS:
That demo you got wasn't even a beta version. It's an ALPHA version and was NOT supposed to be released.
I'm sure the release will be a LOT better on the crashes.

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Well that would be interesting, if this is the cast then I'm sure Rowan will be very pi**ed off with PCGamer cos its now in ever newsagent in the UK & according to the ABC it circulated 86,000 last month. Any ideas why PCgamer would do this or do you think it was just a co*kup.