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Topic: Just tested CFS2....and...
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Mshock44
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posted 10-21-2000 04:57 PM
Well, nit-picking aside, I like it. I've been playing flight sims since Aces of the Pacific, and it's the first since EAW that you can play an enjoyable campaign from begining to end without crippling bugs ruining it. Sure, the combat isn't as incredibly accurate as EAW, but the flight operations leave it way behind. When you try to lower the flaps or the gear with the engine in idle, the low hydraulic pressure takes longer to complete the operation, for example. (you have to run the engine a bit). I rarely use the outside view, I use the 2d pit for navigation, take-off, landing, and the 3d pit for combat. The 3d pit is a carbon-copy of eaw's system, so it's good to go, only the instruments are more readable. I agree it's rough around the edges, but if a dendicated community can make a broken bird fly (Falcon4), it can make a good sim soar.
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Airbuddha
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posted 10-21-2000 06:26 PM
Hi Hynkel, I'm shaking my head at your criticism of the markings until something occurs to me. Is it possible you're flying with the default graphic settings? If you have your graphics settings optimized then I'll certainly respect your opinion, but it sounds like we're talking about two entirely different sims. Go to Settings and then to Advanced Settings Set hardware to your preference. Then go to the Image Quality tab and set object texture size to 512, and put a check in the box for High Detail Virtual Cockpit I would wager that you haven't done this yet. I certainly respect your dislike for CFS2, but I don't think you have the eye candy turned on yet. It's a no-brainer to say it doesn't have EAW's gameplay, but it's really good. Graphically speaking, it's beyond compare to anything else I've seen. So it doesn't have EAW's gameplay. Big deal. Fire up the mission builder, drop in some European scenery and turn it into EAW. You guys are certainly smart and talented enough to do it. Your all's idea of what a sim should be vs your average CFS Joe ain't even close. So you see the stuff they drop in, and the crap that ****** sales as addons for CFS and think CFS2=garbage. I wish to &^$& that my EAW pawdnas would get more into it, as no one knows what a flight sim should be more than you all. EAW won't die of lonliness if you guys start tinkering with a sim that begs to be modified vs beating the living hell out of EAW to get what you want. EAW will still be here. It's too good. Some of you guys are sitting in front of the EAW General Store whittling your sticks while CFS2 rockets by and muttering "Damn kids!". Hahaha, ok, it was a little funny  Please reply back if this fixes your graphics, or if it still stinks. Airbuddha The Hangar
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Bigshot
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posted 10-21-2000 07:13 PM
I completely agree with Airbudda. CFS2 is a real beauty. The graphics are stunning. The aircraft are the most detailed I've ever seen. Like looking at an up close picture. As far as the missions go, the mission builder is simplistic and unending. Whatever you putter can handle would be the only limit. I just set up a mission where I take off from the enterprise with my hellcat and cruise south past ocean island and to my surprise I find two Jap carriers escorted by four Jap battleships. Now, I tell my 3 wingmen to attack and the crap hits the fan. Flak everyway bouncing me all over the sky. I take a dive with my two bombs. Oh, crap. Well, I got everybody on the deck of that Jap carrier wet. What more can I say. After several flak hits, I check my wings only to find a bunch of holes. Time to turn around and head back to the Enterprise. Which way, I'm lost. Check the map. Oh yeah, it's north. Head north fighting the controls having to apply a lot of aileron and rudder to stay straight. Find the carrier, line up, coming in with a cross wind with my aircraft yawing badly do to the damage. The carriers suppose to be heading into the wind, but he's take evasive action. Why, I don't know. Get a wayoff from the LSO. Screw that, this is gonna be a mess away. Tail hooks down, flaps down, gear down, too fast, cut power and slam onto the deck and caught the wires. HEHE. I'm alive and ready for a tall cold one. Now, Who'd criticize this??? PII 450 TNT1 128 ram. Smooth as silk!!!------------------ The only thing FREE in this world is "LONG DISTANCE TELEPHONE CALLS" at dialpad.com HEHEHEHE
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Albert
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posted 10-21-2000 07:43 PM
Hate to break up this CFS2 love in, but um..CFS sucks CFS2 sucks There I said it, Sure as hell someone needed to. I like EAW, I'm here for EAW. If you like CFS go to the CFS board and wax and wane poeticly on and on. Airbudha, you have strayed from the path of rightousnous. Maybe it's because they are paying you, maybe it's because that Satan guy got to you I don't know. Statements like "beating the hell out of EAW to make it better" are ludicrous. New things are being created everyday at an incredible rate. Modifications ounce thought complex or even impossible are becoming more and more common. Your statement to "make CFS2 into EAW" WHY?? I already have EAW. To paraphrase you I am going to sit on this here bench with EAW and let your super sim pass me by, I know mediocrity when I see it. "CFS2 begs to be tinkered with" aye? As far as improving sims at home goes you can only do so much with what your given originally. Its the frame, the backbone, of the sim that matters most. If you've got good gameplay that is what counts and lasts. EAW is inherently better than CFS2 in this way, no question. CFS2 is very close to being "Jane's WWII Fighters over the Pacific" more than anything. If you think "just wait and it will get better" so what, if you want excellent user made planes/ground vehicles/ weapons/ Naval vessels/ ect go take a look at SDOE. Great addons, lousy game did it get better as a game? SDOE's fans say it's a "modelers sim" and it truly does invite modders to tinker with just about every aspect available and they make truly great things, better than can be done for any other sim, but all for a game that is poor when it comes right down to the fundamentals. EAW is the last of the "Oldschool" gameplay flightsims. CFS is CFS2 in the Pacific with better eye candy, somewhat beefier modeling and AI than they did with number 1. Its reviews matter not to me since almost all MicroSoft games get good reviews (hmmm I wonder) CFS got good reviews when it was new and out sold all the other WWII flightsims combined. We all know what a steaming pile of poo that is. If you want to launch off carriers fine. watch as one plane at a time magicly appears on deck and launches (PAW did this better) and enjoy. I didn't see anything really new or amazing. IL2 may amaze me.
[This message has been edited by Albert (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Albert
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posted 10-21-2000 08:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mshock44: EAW is great but it does look like CFS2 is the likely succesor
No, not nearly It is the likly succesor to the top selling WWII flight sim.. CFS CFS has hundreds of websites devoted to it and it's modders many more than EAW has now I'm sure. They will move into the sequal. I doubt that you will see wholesale evacuation from here anytime soon. Airbudha had really left this flock several months ago. His site has slowly become a CFSII one with the many archived EAW skins in the background. S! Airbudha You made some good EAW skins  ***ADDITION*** Since I corrected a type-o just after posting this message I want to go back and say that I did not add the last statment afterwards. The entire message is unaltered from the first submition.
[This message has been edited by Albert (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Airbuddha
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posted 10-21-2000 08:50 PM
Nah, nix all that. You're an asshole and I've got too many friendly aquaintances in here to smell the place up.I just deleted my temper tantrum. I was an idiot for posting anything positive about an MS product in here. But... I have over 9 EAW pages on site and one CFS page. Roger [This message has been edited by Airbuddha (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Albert
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posted 10-21-2000 09:04 PM
I can see I touched a nerve or two with my remarks by the uncivil tone of your responce. Your site is clearly a CFSII one with some EAW archives. It's been said (although not so clearly) here before. It was not meant as an insult it was a statment, a statment you obviously consider one. The rightous statment was as tongue-in-cheek as it clearly appears without clouded perception. Also the whole internet aninimity arguement is a moot one as a regular poster anywhere. You don't see Barryw sticking around someplace he's unwanted. What ever floats your boat. I'll call you no names.
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Airbuddha
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posted 10-21-2000 09:39 PM
No Albert. If I had left that post up there it would have been an antiME post. I still feel the same about what I deleted, but I would have felt like crap later by mirroring you.I'm sure most got the chance to read it. I have nothing but flight sims on my HD and they all seem to get along very well. For you to say that CFS2 was like WWII Fighters was hardly a slam. I realize a few of you have an EAW Jihad to attend. It's no different on CFS message boards. Some of the CFS people have declared war on CFS2 as if MS were going to send out it's storm troopers and rip CFS from their clutched arms with their wives and babies screaming. I reckon I would stand in line to see a good CFS burning myself. I don't like it. I never liked it. I bought it because it was first to market in a time when there were no WWII flight sims that didn't look like Air Warrior, but it's a helluva lot of fun to sit and build model planes except wifey don't yell at me for sniffin glue. I do however like CFS2, and regret not stopping at the graphics settings advice I was trying to give Hynkel. It wasn't dumber'n hell to post something nice about another sim in here. It's dumb to do it anywhere. People can't stand it when you say something nice about X-sim on the Y-sim message board. It's the damndest thing. It always amazes me. Roger Dial
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Albert
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posted 10-21-2000 10:09 PM
I will reply as it this message is directed towards me.
quote: Originally posted by Airbuddha: No Albert. If I had left that post up there it would have been an antiME post. I still feel the same about what I deleted, but I would have felt like crap later by mirroring you.
I disagree that it was mirroring me as it contained vulgarities and questioned my character. I did niether about you in my post. I complimented your old EAW work. It did reflect badly on you I agree there. quote: Originally posted by Airbuddha: For you to say that CFS2 was like WWII Fighters was hardly a slam.
Did I say that that was a bad thing? After playing for several days that was my impression. I have SDOE, WWIIF and EAW all installed at the moment.
quote: Originally posted by Airbuddha: I do however like CFS2, and regret not stopping at the graphics settings advice I was trying to give Hynkel.
I would not have replied to you, and more directly quoted you, if you had not made some remarks that I interpreted as being unkind to EAW, it's players ("sitting at country store being rocketed by by CFS2") and the hard work being done these days on EAW("beating the living hell out of EAW"). Especially all here on the EAW forum. quote: Originally posted by Airbuddha: It wasn't dumber'n hell to post something nice about another sim in here
I disagree I have seen several pro other sim posts go by without incedent. I think I made an SDOE one long before the torpedoe troll affair. I have replied to others on WWIIF when the new modding work started. It's the comparison posts that get negative responses. I honestly meant no malice toward anyone personnaly. It was a simple comparison of opinions. I have never tried to cause problems or go out of my way to argue. I think people here know that.
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Lobo_78th
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posted 10-21-2000 10:10 PM
Hey AB, I have both on my hard drive,I enjoy both,Just still learning CFS2.Is there a Key list?(one a little more comprhecive than the manual,outside of the game)and how do I set it up for screenshots? ------------------ Lobo
Good Judgement Comes From Experience.....And Experience Comes From BAD Judgement! There Is No Use In Complaining,Half The People Don't Care,And The Other Half Think You Deserve IT! Ignorance Is Bliss.....And I'm A Happy Man! [This message has been edited by Lobo_78th (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Lex
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posted 10-21-2000 10:14 PM
Roger watch out or we will have to bring out the ducking stool!! HERESY HERESY - where's me cognac?? My take is this -I have a copy of CFS1 -an actual copy-copy with fake cover and even a copied(badly)disc print-one of my mates gave me it for free eons ago and you know what?I have never even loaded it!?I read the reports and figured it was too knackered to bother with-not bad graphics tho apparently,I then rediscovered EAW and it is good (although for campaign immersiveness I still rate RB2 higher,maybe its the generic pilot photos I don't know.)This CFS2 does sound good I must admit - but to the "diehards" micro$oft has come a wee bit close to "spoiling the ship for a ha'penth worth of tar".With their budget MS should have done a bit better I think but they were safe in the knowledge that all retailers just about HAVE to give shelf space to it or face the consequency's...Some people may be cheesed off from buying the first one or be tee'd off by the "Oh that! - that will be in CFS3 guff we have been hearing- which to many people sounds like typical MS corporate greed.BUT (and I'm afraid it's a BIG but! ) I,and many others, value your opinion Roger and based on what I have read ,all over this seems like a good ENJOYABLE sim which can only get better as the mod brigade start making more ship types etc.To me I think it is a must have and will be a "buy" recommendation to anyone I know that is looking for a Pac sim -EAW/PAW may yet continue its upward path -who knows but for now for the "average Joe" it has to be CFS2 ...probably....  Hope thats cleared it up! hehe Hey listen you two guys we are ALL WW2 Fliers and thats a good start at least!  Lex Morton AKA BazookaJock PS AirBuddha did you check out this screenshot I posted a few hrs ago? EAW - It's Out Of This World !! Hope its got a pressurised cockpit! hehe  PPS EAW SUCKS! ------------------ "I'm just going to probe the bush's at the fork..." - "Unknown Soldier" [This message has been edited by Lex (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Airbuddha
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posted 10-21-2000 11:13 PM
Okey doke Albert. You're right about several things. I've re-read your original post and see that you edited out the part that made my head itch.I truly truly wish I had read it before you edited it, because I would never have lost my cool. I'm not slamming you for editing it out. I just wish you'd have done it before I read it. The crux of my beef with you was what you said and then deleted about my website. With that taken out, I have no disagreement with you. Not even the part telling me to get off your EAW message board and go laud CFS2 somewhere else. I couldn't even fault you for getting bent over the general store joke. It's reasonable to think a few wouldn't be amused. quote: I disagree that it was mirroring me as it contained vulgarities and questioned my character. I did niether about you in my post.
quote: I am one that does not take back what he has to say.
You most certainly did question my character and the content of my site. You did take back what you said, but regretfully for me, not before I read it. quote: Airbudha, you have strayed from the path of rightousnous. Maybe it's because they are paying you
This wouldn't have offended me if I had read it after you edited it. I would've taken it for what it appears to be. A joke. So, that said, I apologize for the very unkind things I said. You say that you don't take back what you have to say, but I thankfully can't make that claim. If I'm a jerk, I know it. I don't rest well until I fess up to it, and I definitely went into JERK mode when I read your un-edited post. Regards, Roger L. Dial
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Airbuddha
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posted 10-21-2000 11:39 PM
Ok, whatever man. It's late. My eyes are full of sand. Re-arrange it any way you see fit. I've been wrong before. I won't have to wait long before I'm wrong again. quote: Airbudha had really left this flock several months ago. His site has slowly become a CFSII one with the many archived EAW skins in the background.
Yep, you're right. You left it in. That's the one that twisted my crank pal. Airbuddha [This message has been edited by Airbuddha (edited 10-21-2000).]
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