enjoy
http://spower.free.fr

It s like the ibéta patch. One hex coder find a bug and correct it. So, all the other Hex coders have to take this in account if they want to improve the global product.

We are all engaged in a sort of cockpit competition (Xis, Paul, Rufus, etc...) but I think it s a great competition as the final winner is the Falcon4 user.

It's still a very great cockpit and I think it's a lot closer to the cockpit view which a real F-16 pilot gets.

When I first saw the wide view projects, I considered to make a 800x600 version (I already have done a 800x600 cockpit before 1.08 came out) but I gave up, because it's almost impossible to get all the stuff in 800x600 *and* maintain good image quality (the MFDs are a good example - they are smaller in the wide view and while they are well readable at 1024x768 it would be a pain in 800x600). Same for the HUD, btw.

Thanks for giving your time (can anyone say for free?) so we may enjoy your talent.

I agree no competition, just some "friendly" rivalry, if it was a competition, what the hell do we win?? Its you guys who actually win in the end. I just do it for myself basically.

Dont mind who uses my stuff, as long as there is a thankyou in the readme, especially after all the hours ive put into something.

Thats all we can ask, though i think the "three" of us would love to copyright our work sometimes Oh and payment is most appreciated - LOL

i hope you have seen greetings to you at the bottom of our "lisezmoi.txt" file included in Zip file.

Your 10_12_d is incredible, wonderful.
i'am sure you'll do that from others view !

even if i like very much Wide view, there'is only one NORMAL view i love !
yours !!! full realistic and beautiful graphics.

what did you said ??? hum.. i remember !!
"KEEP UP THE GOOD WORKS"

You would not have to get a feedback like T-bone's
if you had taken my advice. (I mean callsign above)

BTW, I was astoniehed once again by your HSI included/excluded
version of cockpit.
Moving ICP button, larger MFDs etc.. (magnifying glass is
taken out from my desk at last)
I LIKED IT A WHOLE BUNCH, Keep up the good work.

There is a lot of stuff that could be improve
if we can find the database of the "callbackslot" and understand how it works.

exemple: you should not be able to raise up your gear if you have the 2 hydraulics circuits off.

I m pretty sure that Falcon compute those info but the problem is that there are not display (like the ALT warning light that was commanded by a Break-X signal...???)

I think that is a dream for all of us, if someone could crack the callback slots, we could almost do what we want in the cockpit.

I'm currently using Paul Wilson's cockpit, with pretty good results, however, at the darkest part of night, you cannot read any of the instrument labels (can't see buttons, etc.) or the clipboards.

Before I install your work, can you tell me, will I be able to read these items at the darkest part of night?

Thanks!

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Originally posted by skypat:
Block 50/52
With new 6 oclock view
and third 12 oclock view !
and lots of graphic enhancement

enjoy
http://spower.free.fr

benhur & Skypat
Only quality product !

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The cockpits do not affect the brightness of the cockpit at night. The LOD file does.

If you have installed Skyfix, KoreaSky or Moodfix, this is your problem. They make the ambience too dark at night to see the cockpit instuments.

Try the defualt LOD file or Skyfix2, that is ok for nightime.

Hope this helps

My other question is related to the screenshots on the website. The bottom screenshot is a rear view within the cockpit; What is the grey matter behind the seat? It's probably a parachute, but it might also be an innert rock with magical powers giving the pilot abilities to teleport behind any incoming enemy. . .But I could be wrong ;-)

After reading the threads above, I just didnt want to force you or others to go down that low (literally) to read this. But I hope you will still see this post.....

I personally want to commend all of you for your extremely valuable free addons. You all are contributors to our simming community.

While I absolutely love Xis's 800 and 1024Res cockpits for thier Block52 accuracy, I do a LOT of formation flying - see the links http://www.combatsim.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/001995.html So I see your wide angle view as very useful for that purpose. I dont like the small text and avionics on a 17" monitor, but for formation flying this wide view is what counts, not detailed avionics.

Now heres my challenge for you guys....
Can someone comeup with a cockpit selector C++ utility so you can quickly go from one cockpit to another? Similair to Onions Skin Editor?

Thanks,
Thomas AV8R Spann

I often wonder why no one has put together a cockpit changer, i cant program so dont look at me, but im sure there is plenty of people out there with the knowledge. Hell you could almost do it with a BAT file So im sure someone could put a nice front end to such a thing.

quote:

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Originally posted by Thomas AV8R Spann:
SkyPat, BenHur (love your movie, lol) and Xis:

After reading the threads above, I just didnt want to force you or others to go down that low (literally) to read this. But I hope you will still see this post.....

I personally want to commend all of you for your extremely valuable free addons. You all are contributors to our simming community.

While I absolutely love Xis's 800 and 1024Res cockpits for thier Block52 accuracy, I do a LOT of formation flying (see the links http://www.combatsim.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/001995.html). So I see your wide angle view
as very useful for that purpose. I dont like the small text and avionics on a 17" monitor, but for formation flying this wide view is what counts, not detailed avionics.

Now heres my challenge for you guys....
Can someone comeup with a cockpit selector C++ utility so you can quickly go from one cockpit to another? Similair to Onions Skin Editor?

Thanks,
Thomas AV8R Spann

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mouarrfff, my movie... i was young... LOL

I m always happy to see that there is some people that enjoy our work and even with the heigth of all those years , i can always read all those thread.

I think that "cockpit switch" should be done with a batch file renaming the cockpits art folders and a shortcut to launch it with parameters.
I m not an expert in batch file but perhaps someone could do that for us ?

For the "small text" problem, notice that the MFDs are as large as in non wide view cockpits.

I note that, once again, those displaying the most dignity in this thread are the cockpit makers of the world - XiS, Benhur and Skypat (as well as Paul) - not only do I appreciate your fine work, I also admire your ability to rise above such bickering. If none of you seem to be offended, why should any of the rest of us presume to be offended on your behalf??

We all know your contributions and all of you freely acknowledge each others contributions. That's good enough for me. Once again, you have my respect and admiration. ALL of you.

Thanks, the cockpit looks just fabulous. I'll go for it immediately, tonight.

One question/suggestion: would it be hard to remake the (right) kneepad? I find it bery erratic to see one kneepad I expect a real pilot to have, and then the other being long and narrow. Very different from each other. Also in some of the cockpits the information on the right seems to orginized a bit different and to my eyes, more informative.
For example the template on your page: the GTT cockpit has funny yet professional - and some others.

Of course I could tinker myself plain-graphics file to down-right, since the kneepad doesn't have any activities bound, but I think this would be an enhancement to your cockpit.

Thanks for the cockpit! I have been using 1.13G and it was great in itself!!

Super work, I owe you one (beer).

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Originally posted by xis:
Thomas

I often wonder why no one has put together a cockpit changer, i cant program so dont look at me, but im sure there is plenty of people out there with the knowledge. Hell you could almost do it with a BAT file So im sure someone could put a nice front end to such a thing.

Xis

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Funny you should mention this. I left a message on iBeta's forum earlier regarding a similar situtation (it was about choosing a different plane cockpit before launching falcon). I didn't put any batch file, but made a quick one for THIS situation. Here's the batch file...

@echo off

echo 1 - Xis' cockpit
echo 2 - Viper299's addition to Xis' cockpit
echo 3 - Benhur's Wide view cockpit
echo 4 - Paul's Wide vew cockpit
echo 5 - Original cockpit
echo.
choice /C:12345 "Please enter which cockpit to use "

if errorlevel 5 goto OPT_5
if errorlevel 4 goto OPT_4
if errorlevel 3 goto OPT_3
if errorlevel 2 goto OPT_2
if errorlevel 1 goto OPT_1

:OPT_1
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Xis.txt goto OK
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif
copy d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\xis d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart > NUL
echo Xis' cockpit d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\xis.txt
goto OK

:OPT_2
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Viper299.txt goto OK
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif
copy d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Viper299 d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart > NUL
echo Viper299's cockpit d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Viper299.txt
goto OK

:OPT_3
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Benhur.txt goto OK
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif
copy d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Benhur d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart > NUL
echo Benhur's cockpit d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Benhur.txt
goto OK

:OPT_4
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Paul.txt goto OK
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif
copy d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Paul d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart > NUL
echo Paul's cockpit d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Paul.txt
goto OK

:OPT_5
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Original.txt goto OK
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.txt
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.dat
if exist D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif del D:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\*.gif
copy d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Original d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart > NUL
echo Original cockpit d:\Falcon4\Art\ckptart\Original.txt
goto OK

:OK

One thing you might have to change is the path to your falcon directory. I've put D:\Falcon4 since this is what I use. Also, I'm assuming cockpits are in 'falcondir'\art\ckptart\?????? directories. Like yours would be in d:\falcon4\art\ckptart\xis for example. I've entered entries for yours, Viper299 mod to yours, Benhur's, Paul's and the original cockpit. You can add as many as you want, but don't forget to change the 'choice ...' line.

Personally, I already start F4 through a batch file. It copies my logbook daily (copy it once per day on a directory who's name is the date) and check if I have the right profile stored in my CH ProThrottle before loading F4.

Ill give this a looksee tonight.
Thanks for filling in the gap
until some J Onion comes along
and writes a GUI version.

Are you pondering what Im pondering?

I wonder if we could spice up
this BAT file with a global variable
to point to an user set path variable
so that one shoe fits all. Now Im
also thinking we kick off this bat
file from a shortcut to F4?

Hmmmmmmmmm

quote:

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Originally posted by Thomas AV8R Spann:
Slyvain,

Ill give this a looksee tonight.
Thanks for filling in the gap
until some J Onion comes along
and writes a GUI version.

Are you pondering what Im pondering?

I wonder if we could spice up
this BAT file with a global variable
to point to an user set path variable
so that one shoe fits all. Now Im
also thinking we kick off this bat
file from a shortcut to F4?

Hmmmmmmmmm

Thomas

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The bat file looks great. I don't know much about bat programming so I do not understand everything you have written. Does your bat file delete the contents of the entire ckptart directory before installing the next cockpit? It would need to.

It looks like it does though. The menu.dat should stay though since it is unrelated to the cockpits that we do and is modified by others (Deltahawks, iBeta, others).