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Topic: OT : To the Forum Destroyers:
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Edwin Rommel
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posted 06-05-2000 05:40 AM
Herren- to those that have taken it upon themselves to kill the spirit of this forum:I appeal to you in the name of decency to stop the politicking on our forum and to take your crap elsewhere. I know bushes are few and far between here in Africa, but I am sure you will find somewhere comfortable and out of sight to pursue your interest in politics. If this fails to encourage you to take your topics elsewhere I appeal to like-minded people on this forum to join me in approaching the Publisher of this forum to ban/suspend certain members of the family until they come to their senses. I would also like to point out the Old Guy posted a code of conduct a while ago. I urge you to read this again and if you feel you cannot abide by those rules, that you would kindly remove yourself from this place. There is an off-topic section at COMABTSIM where you can peddle your opinions. Edwin Rommel Feldmarshall
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Anton8
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posted 06-05-2000 06:50 AM
S! Well-spoken, Herr Field Marshall!I, too have strong political views. They coincide with some of those here; with others not so much. You will never know whose are whose. I make my political views known where they count - at the polls (thanking God all the while that I have that option). Overall, we are a rather intelligent bunch here, so strong views - and the thoughtful consideration to support them - are to be expected out of such a group. BUT, one can find that anywhere, and political views are NOT what makes this Forum special. The obvious issues of gameplay and computer help are. Also the humor - and we are gifted with many humorous people . Also the historical threads - even though some of these have potential to be hotly debated topics! (But I recently learned a great deal about Rome that I never would have known - thanks Roman-experten!) Thanks, Rommell. I second your motion. ------------------ 1LT Horace Blake quote: "By the time I am an Oberleutnant, I am already dead!" Leutnant Klaus Bretschneider, Staffelkapitan 5./JG 300. KIA 11/44 40 Victories
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PapaRomeo
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posted 06-05-2000 09:39 AM
Herr General:I heartily agree. Every day, it seems, newcomers are "rediscovering" EAW and turning to us for guidance. I'd hate to think they might be turned off by some of these "political" threads and never discover the full beauty of EAW "Mk. II". Let's not go back to the "bad old days." We came far too close to losing our forum then. PR ------------------ PapaRomeo *********** The drone of flying engines Is a song so wild and blue It scrambles time and seasons if it gets through to you... ***********
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The Quiet Man
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posted 06-05-2000 09:55 AM
Boy, I'm gone for a few days and this place takes leave of it's senses......... Herr Rommel, thank you, (once again!), for being here and being a voice of reason.Everyone has opinions, but it is not necessary to voice those opinions everywhere. There are certain bodily functions and sexual practices you wouldn't discuss with your grandparents, but are open to debate at the local pub. Same guidelines apply to race, religion and politics. The EAW forum IS NOT the place for these types of posts, especially those that are intentionally devisive. But, I disagree with banning the ill mannered. We have all been buttheads on occasion, and some of us seem to need more practice at it. Banishing a single person will not prevent someone else from coming in and starting the same crap all over again. Personally, I would prefer that these threads be dealt with in a particularly EAWish manner, silly them to death. Pile them up with Monty Python, Troll Babes, Pink Tigertanks, Rat Testes, Bomb Bursts, and especially, ascerbic wit and biting humour. Chase 'em out like the Chris's and Fwankerites. Just my opinion.......... TQM ------------------ En boca cerrada, no entran moscas.
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DOM
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posted 06-05-2000 10:00 AM
Phewwwwwwwwwwwww .......It's so good finding sensible people on this forum. Politic stuff (right or left) has NOTHING to do here. SAVE OUR FORUM, PLEASE I do agree with you HR. Dominique
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Admin
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posted 06-05-2000 10:00 AM
Guys,Sorry, but I was busy cutting down trees and cleaning cat doo doo out of our flower beds all weekend (there should be a law!), so I missed this weekend's shenanigans. I understand BarryW may be at the center of all this nonsense. Anybody else I should be looking at?
------------------ Douglas Helmer Forum Administrator publisher@combatsim.com
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Ogdensnutgone
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posted 06-05-2000 11:11 AM
Yoss. 1369When salt is put on a leech or slug, it drops off of what it is clinging on to  My point was if we ignore the topic then it will fade away. I agree, we can handle it ourselves by determining which posts are worthy of a response. I for one, get so much from here that a few loonies won't stop me. Oh, and bring on the python
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The Quiet Man
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posted 06-05-2000 11:32 AM
General,I agree, zip responses would be the perfect end to these posts. I just wish we could guarantee a perfect end. By the way, congratulations on post # 800. TQM ------------------ En boca cerrada, no entran moscas.
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Rodger Bilko
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posted 06-05-2000 11:33 AM
My First and Last comment on the matter.Pharaoh's well being = 10 Barryw's drivel = 62 Think about it. ------------------ Bilko's HQ Chocks away, back soon old chap and hey, stay away from Mrs Bilko or I'll give you a damn good thrashing with my STICK
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posted 06-05-2000 11:47 AM
You've got the right perspective, Bilko.Besides, I think all this is academic now admin is active. But there will be other people who get their rocks off stirring mischief. I hope when the time comes, I can remember this last weekend, and drive on without stopping. God bless us all.
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Tracy
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posted 06-05-2000 02:44 PM
As a newcomer to both EAW, and this forum, I would heartily agree with Herr Rommel. This has become, by a wide margin, my favorite flightsim forum in a very short time because of, like EAW itself, that intangible "atmosphere". I will leave it to the more senior members to propose, or implement solutions, but my personal opinion is that self discipline is the key. I drive a truck, and visit trucking forums on occasion, and many of them are absolutely worthless (in my opinion, again) because they contain about 1 % dialog about trucking, and the rest on politics, religion, flame wars, etc., etc. Enough-an enemy formation has been spotted heading towards Hornchurch-I gotta go!
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Grendel
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posted 06-05-2000 03:43 PM
At the risk of beating a dead horse, (or of getting beaten like a dead horse ) I'll say that, while I don't read that many off topic posts, some of them are rather comical or interesting, and depending on my mood I might have a look. If I do peek at it, and find it's something that is either too stupid to warrent reading, or too boring, or something that just doesn't interest me, then I don't bother looking at it again, and certainly won't post to it. I can understand the annoyance some will have of seeing so many posts that have nothing at all to do with EAW or even flight sims for that matter, but if you think about it, you'll realize that censorship, even if it might be for the good of some, will eventually lead to ruination. Just think how boring it would be to have to post (or read posts) concerning ONLY the game of EAW and those things directly related to it. All the "What is it" stuff, all the "Babe" posts (I never look at these, I just read the articles ) and much (if not all) of the humorous quips would be banned. So, if you don't like a subject, don't post to it or bother reading it after the first glance. I notice that most people are good enough to put the OT acronym in the subject heading, so even those people who don't want anything at all to do with off topic posts should find it fairly easy to stick with their discipline.
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Tailspin
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posted 06-05-2000 04:12 PM
That is what I can't figure out,Grendel. Barryw is infamous around here for such threads. It kills me that people get themselves drawn into these threads and then can't handle it or say things they really don't want to when it gets a little hot. If you don't want to play barryw's game then don't start. Just say NO! I'll admit I had a real good acid-filled flame about half-way typed for "good ole boy" barryw. You know what? I didn't send it. Why? Because then I would have to respond to this response and defend that remark etc...NOT worth my time! We all are guilty too. We are like a child who's told not to look in a box. All that does is peak our curiosity. barryw played us like a fiddle! And another thing...to refer to barryw and his ilk as "Forum Destroyers" is giving them WAY too much credit. They are as about as significant as a fart in a funnel-cloud! ------------------ Joke 'em if they can't take a.... [This message has been edited by Tailspin (edited 06-05-2000).]
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No105_Archie
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posted 06-05-2000 05:31 PM
I asked a question a while back figuring I would get answers on an issue that I didn't understand. I got the answers I wanted but there was a lot "stuff" that I didn't expect too. The lesson I learned is to never ask that kind of question again. I read almost all the posts on this forum and I am always amazed at how such a diverse crowd of "warriors" can get along so well. I think we need to be very careful about "banning" anything. There is too much "political correctness" in the world now. I love to read the fictional antics of forum alter egos, but to some they might be not "politically correct". Is "Germglish" fair to German people ? Are my countrymen insulted when called Newfies ? Not politically correct but harmless. You might even say that replaying WWII for fun is not "correct"If someone wants to rant & rave about their pet predjudices maybe the best thing we can do is ignore them , or politely state our own views. I agree with a previous post that calling these folks "forum destroyrers"s giving them way to much credit. ------------------ Pilot Officer Archie Smythe
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Hambone
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posted 06-05-2000 05:57 PM
Banning anything other than actual defammatory speech would probably truly BE a Forum Destroyer. We all have opinions and, all too often, there are many people who want to tell us what to say and what not to say. I am not defending BarryW's posts. But, remember, He just posted the first messages on the two threads. You guys then proceeded to tear each other apart. I wouldn't go too far in placing the blame on one person for that. Before we get too smug in our righteous indignation, remember the SA threads of a couple of months back? How destructive did those become? BarryW didn't start those threads. Rommel and Tobiwan did, if memory serves me. I read some pretty off-the-wall stuff posted on there by some of the same people who have been cutting BarryW off at the knees this weekend. Should he have done it? No. I don't think so. It was pointless and obviously designed to stir things up. But, as the saying goes, "I'll defend to the death your right to say it." Remember that? As soon as things get a little uncomfortable, many of the same people he was pointing at begin trying to "Ban" certain kinds of discussion. Well, okay. Babes are off-topic. Other flight sims are off-topic. Hardware is probably off-topic. Personal stuff like life and loves and births and deaths are definitely off-topic. Pharaoh's physical problem is definitely off-topic. See what I mean? Just which one of you, or "ones" of you, is going to be the person who decides what can be posted. Perhaps we should just post to an upload area and then let Doug waste all his time screening our messages to make sure we don't discuss anything off-topic. Come on, guys! If you feel foolish for what you said or for being drawn into the fray, then you probably should. Don't you understand? Don't you all get it? What is ultimately destructive is when you post PERSONAL INSULTS AND DEFAMMATORY SPEECH. But don't try to lay down a bunch of new rules so things will be Politically Correct and everyone will be happy ever after. Because, I warn you, that is the biggest "Forum Destroyer" of all.  Hambone [This message has been edited by Hambone (edited 06-05-2000).]
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Lex
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posted 06-05-2000 08:37 PM
I agree with that Hambone - I also think that we should maybe cut Barry a bit of slack as he is looking after his Aunt (IIRC) who must be very old.I myself looked after my grand uncle (he actually raised my mother) until he passed away 3 years ago at age 85, it can be a wee bit stressfull at times.Besides if we aren't allowed to blow off a little steam with our mates then what? Firing Now !!  Lex Morton AKA BazookaJock
BTW that M16 is available as a full 3D model for FREE ! - Wish we could incorporate this and some other crackers I have found...Like this photi of Rommels "banger" I found.. Or even this P61 Black widow 3D model There are some GREAT trucks,Arty,Tanks etc too - if only we could figure out how to put a M16 in the game it would look great with all 4 barrels blazing ! ------------------ "I'm just going to probe the bush's at the fork..." "Unknown Soldier" [This message has been edited by Lex (edited 06-05-2000).]
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Benjamin
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posted 06-05-2000 10:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hambone: Babes are off-topic. Other flight sims are off-topic. Hardware is probably off-topic. Personal stuff like life and loves and births and deaths are definitely off-topic. Pharaoh's physical problem is definitely off-topic. See what I mean? Just which one of you, or "ones" of you, is going to be the person who decides what can be posted. Perhaps we should just post to an upload area and then let Doug waste all his time screening our messages to make sure we don't discuss anything off-topic. [This message has been edited by Hambone (edited 06-05-2000).]
There is "OFF TOPIC" and then there is "TROLLING". There is a difference, and people here obviously saw him and his post for what it was. As for making excuses for him, isn't he the one allways talking about sailing or driving his very wealthy friends Delorian, or flying in his newly purchased plane?? I don't think his aunt is that much of a burden. Hell many of us here wouldn't mind having that kinda "stress". Benjamin Johannes
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Benjamin
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posted 06-05-2000 10:41 PM
I'm not obsessing here Sparrow??? That was only my second post in all of this mess he's made (that would have been my last post in regards to this rubbish but you have forced me to waste more of my time). I've never called him a "rich bastard" either. Sparrow where do you get off stepping to me like that?? I frankly don't give a rats @ss (no offence labrat) over this or him . I stopped reading his threads knowing what they would contain. I don't pull any punches, if your a trolling twit I'll say it. Just wandering where your head is Sparrow
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Yossarian1369
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posted 06-05-2000 10:58 PM
Ain't this fabulous, the ghost of Barry has incited another thread. Let's try to get a couple things straight, first of all, Hambone is absolutely correct, I'm not sure who is supposed to be the arbitor over what is acceptable on this board, and I'd rather not decide. Personaly, I'll deal with it as it comes down the pike. Secondly, Barry W and Isa don't play well in the sandbox with others, they deserve all the scorn they get, they post to incite people, they do a great job of pissing people off. I'm of the firm belief that they wouldn't do this to most of us if they had to do it to our face, I can gaurantee you they wouldn't do it twice. This is our forum, this is a place to share EAW and all the good things (see JWC, Donster's babe pics, Rommel's stories, Mosi, Blinko, et al. and everyone I left out), these guys are pukes...Let's call them that, ignore the bastards and be done with it.
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Benjamin
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posted 06-06-2000 12:42 AM
No hard feelings, Sparrow. Put simply, I'm here because of EAW and EAW only. To support it, to learn more about it from the others here, to listen to what others who enjoy it have to say about it, to see what others who enjoy it have created for it, marvel at how far it's come and how long it's lasted, help others if I can with their questions about it, be amused or informed by what some here do for the community that EAW has produced, and in general have fun with it and you all. I'm not here to argue with others or to have to sort through threads that are intended to do so. Benjamin Johannes
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