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Author Topic: Flying, Women, & Song (Chapter 7)
Shanya
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posted 04-25-2000 07:41 PM     Profile for Shanya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
All right, all right! Heavens Phil, don't you ever get enough? No, on second thought, don't answer that, just let me cut another little hole in the igloo here for ventilation....

Once again, a new thread for the ongoing saga. Other women have been sighted in the area, but none have as yet been so bold as to venture into our domain. It's just you and me against the world, guys... Let's attack!

So. Never fear, a copy of EAW is on its way to me even as I type. I thank you kind gentlemen for your offer, but I am an independent and stubborn woman of the far north with far too much free time on her hands. This morning I went forth and set up an illegal sluice box on the Seventymile, dug a tunnel under the river and built a fire in it to heat things up enough to thaw the ice and get the river running, and managed to get just enough dirt and water through the box before the fire died down and the river froze up again to have enough gold to purchase EAW for myself. So I did.

What the heck, with no job and a kid, you guys ARE my social life!

Gotta run. The bear is in the cache again, and that dried salmon has to last me until June...


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Phil47
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posted 04-26-2000 05:29 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
She's got EAW Hurray !.....The last missing link in the puzzle is near to completion.And after me putting in ads all over the place for anyone in the UK who wants to sell a copy or exchange it for my EF2000 Tactcom. I'll have to cancel them all now.
Shanya,
Did I read correctly when you said in a previous post that you had custody of your son for the first nine years and his Father for the next nine ????
That is a very strange set up. Surely that is not a court ruling.
I have never heard of anything like that in England. It is most common that you share custody although the child usualy lives with his Mother. You know weekends and suchlike. Unless of cours his father lives a million miles away. Mexico or Australia for instance.Then usualy the Father will have him for vacations or for extended stays of sixth months or so.But nine years with one..Then nine years with another....You sure you aren't ribbing us here.

Anyway glad to know you are getting EAW.
I have figured out how to fly online with MS Combat. Now I supose I will have to go back to the drawing board and wait for instructions from the Whizz from the Emerald city on links etc.

Don't I get enough?
Surely I can't be as bad as Splatt..
Still Iv'e got a good excuse...I'm English, and you know what American women say about English men
No on second thoughts I had better not.

Splatt,
Yes I was talking about the 1.4 download.Don't worry I'll sort out the sounds.
Hey do you know where I can download a really good B17 or a Lancaster.
No European WW11 sim is complete without one of those two beauties.
I know there are lots of sites with downloads for those two in, but obviously some are much better than others, so I wondered if you knew of a good one.
Gotta go now, but see you all later.........Phil.


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splatterpunk
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posted 04-26-2000 06:37 AM     Profile for splatterpunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello all: Gotta make a quick post and run. Headed back out on the road until Sunday night. Thanks for starting the new thread Shanya and glad to hear you were able to sluice out some pocket change for EAW! Phil's She-males (Geez, I still don't know about that name...) may soon rule the skies. We are your social life? You could do a heck of a lot worse!!! BTW, where's the bear, boyfriend with poker buddies, etc.?

O.K. Phil....On to EAW stuff. As unbelievable as it may be, EAW has NO LANCASTERS !!!! Currently, the EAW community is trying to petition Microprose for the codes to this sim so important things, LIKE LANCASTERS, can be added. What was Microprose thinking? They have the Mosquito, but,....no Lancaster??? If you could, and everyone else please, add your name to this petition at:
http://www.combatsim.com/csp/WWCcontests.pl?action=entryform&id=&filename=eawpet

The B-17 has been modeled by quite a few. Once again, AirBuddha's site has a few good B-17's in the USAAF skins section. In fact, AirBuddha's is the main depository for ALL aircraft skins for EAW. Alternatively, you could get one of the B-17's from C Lumpkin's site at:
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~clumpkin/eawskins.html

Have a great rest of the week folks!

Splatt

[This message has been edited by splatterpunk (edited 04-26-2000).]


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Shanya
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posted 04-26-2000 09:33 AM     Profile for Shanya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, I WILL have EAW, as soon as it arrives, at least! My luck, the plane it's on will get shot down by some Neanderthal intent on keeping the virtual skies free of female pilots.

After I left here so suddenly yesterday, I grabbed my favorite Cessna and headed out over Outer Point for a little bit of sightseeing on what was an absolutely glorious sort of day. The plane was fresh out of annual, and so I was being careful for the first part of the flight, making sure everything was as it ought to be.

Some stalls, slow flight, steep turns, and a couple of chandelles and lazy-8s later, I found myself the back side of Douglas Island, satisfied the plane was fine and wondering what I should do next. I looked up and to the north, and pushed in the throttle and started to climb, heading for Taku Inlet. Once there, I circled and continued climbing to 7000 ft while I called Flight Service and filed a flight plan. Then I went up the Taku Glacier, over the Icefield, and down Eagle Glacier.

What a flight! First the massive Taku Glacier, and then the Icefield -- a vast, unending (from that vantage) mass of smooth, wind-sculpted snow broken by the sharpened peaks of mountains tall enough to poke up through. Around Snowdrift Peak and following tiny little Eagle Glacier down, smooth snow giving way to dirty, broken, tumbling ice tinted a glowing blue.

I'm so privileged to live and fly here.

Phil,

Yes, you read correctly, but I was just kidding. That's not our actual custody arrangement -- I just keep trying to convince the boy's father it is. He's having none of it, though.... can't imagine why. I mean, can you think of anything more equitable?

Shanya


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Phil47
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posted 04-27-2000 01:30 PM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
SOS,
Have just looked up EAW online and it's says that it has closed down......???
Does that mean our squadron is doomed or are there other sites?
Phil

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posted 04-27-2000 01:51 PM     Profile for Hostile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The last time that I played EAW online, it was thru MS GameZone. Do they still have it there?
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posted 04-27-2000 05:16 PM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hostile,
Don't think so but I'll take a closer look.
Phil.

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posted 04-27-2000 07:19 PM     Profile for Hostile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Phil,

I just checked, and it's there in the Simulator category, right below CFS. Here's the link http://www.zone.com/euroairwar/start.asp

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posted 04-28-2000 11:45 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This page is doing the same thing as it did before. Not showing my post straight away. Any way if the last one doesn't show up.......Hostile....Yep you are right. EAW at MSN gaming zone..Well done Sir.
Phil....

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posted 04-29-2000 04:23 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Splatt,Hostile,
Tried connecting with EAW on the MSN zone yesterday but couldn't get the game to work.
How do you do it please. Unlike MS Combat where you just put in the CD and the host kicks it off. Something wrong with the way I set EAW up to start.
Your great brains needed on this one methinks.
Thanks Phil.

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posted 04-29-2000 09:09 AM     Profile for Hostile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I haven't been able to get the Zone software to work with my current computer (kept crashing Netscape). But when I played EAW on the Zone before, it worked like any other game. You just need to have the game CD in the drive, and the game will start when the host launches.
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Hostile,
I'll have to try it again. I went on last night and It didn't seem to want to start when the host launched. Just wondered if I needed to config something somewhere.
Thanks Phil.

PS......Very quite of late in here. Must be that everyone is visiting the Easter Bunny.

Where are Admiral and Spectre hiding.


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Shanya
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posted 04-29-2000 11:59 AM     Profile for Shanya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, good morning boys, how's the wannabe squadron today? This is kind of a new twist on an old Alaskan pastime, you know -- waiting for the plane.

We have an airshow going on here in Juneau today. It was an awesome thing to watch the C-5B Galaxy making touch & goes here on Thursday afternoon! I'm taking my little guy and his best girl out to the airport in a bit, and we're making a day of it. Don't know that the Snowbirds will get to do their thing, though, because the ceiling is pretty low and they're predicting sideways rain in 20-kt winds. Ah well.

Hope you get EAW working, Phil. I'll probably be calling on you to help me through it when my copy arrives.

Shanya



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posted 04-30-2000 03:07 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello Shanya,
Hope you enjoyed the airshow and I hope the weather held out for you. Nothing worse than going to an airshow when low cloud rolls in. They uesd to have a good one near me at Yeovilton but it hasn't been on for a couple of years now. I hope it's on this year.
Have you got EAW yet?
Ha ! that,s a joke.....You want me to help you out with it. Well I will be only too happy to, when I can figure out what's going wrong when I try to fly on line.

Now Splatt or hostile. I went to MSN gaming zone last night and tried again .
I put the CD in the drive. Started the game, then exited. Clicked on join game and when the host launched a page came up giving pilots name , aircraft ect.
The host then said something about " I show a different mod" ( Not as in mod/aircraft with downloads that can fly sideways etc).
I took it that he either meant a flight model , or some sort of modification. Anyway I gave up in the end as he didn't seem to respond to my question of what did he mean, so I went over to MS combat instead. At least I can get that to work.
So Gentlemen, what do you think is going wrong.Obviously it is not just a case of putting in the CD and the host starting the game at the other end. I have to change something somewhere....But What! Do I have to go to the multiplay screen in EAW and change something? or do I need to download something else.....I'm stumped on this one so far..Any more ideas?
I'll get the ****** sorted out one way or another.....Just when though, I,m not sure.
Phil.....


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posted 04-30-2000 04:09 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OK,
Here's whats going wrong

I go to join a game on the zone.
The host launches and I get a screen which says SESSION PARAMETERS.

I change aircraft to say Spitfire.
I then type something in chat box and loose the arrow pointer of the mouse.
If I hold down ENTER the mouse arrow re appears, but I must keep ENTER held or it goes again.
The only way to get it back is to change something, say aircraft in the parameters box and the mouse arrow then stays back on screen.

A message will flash up at some point saying "PLAY BLA BLA HAS DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT DATA"
The host then asks me if I have version 1.2, which according to the main screen page of EAW I do have. (Bottom left corner.)
Anyway from there on in it all fizzles out and the host says that they can't launch or get me in.

Any ideas on this anyone.....
A very P**** off Phil.


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splatterpunk
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posted 05-01-2000 12:24 AM     Profile for splatterpunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello Everyone! I just pulled in and tied her down. I'm beat. But, I see we have a disgruntled Squadron member who is trying to jump the gun and get some on-line flying hours in before some of us (like Shanya) have even had the chance to fly the sim once (Or even look at the brightly, colored box it comes in). Come on Phil, wait a second, won't you?

Here's the explanation for the problem you are experiencing. EAW v1.2 has a "File Checker" as part of the programming that checks to make sure everyone has the same flight models for an on-line game to prevent some players from cheating with a "super", user-created, flight model. This means that everyone in an on-line game must use the exact same set of flight models. When you installed ECA v1.4, as you know, this changed and improved the flight modeling, gun characteristics, etc. When our Squadron gets together to play on-line, we will all be required to have ECA v1.4.

There are, I believe, 5 different sets of flight models that are commonly used out there in different configurations of EAW. From what I understand, the majority of the on-line flyers at the Zone flying in EAW are using the standard EAW v1.2 game with the standard flight modeling. If you simply cannot wait for the rest of us to get ready to play, then you must choose one of the 5 options I'll list here to enable you to get flying on the Zone.

1) Find a hosted game by pilots using ECA v1.4.

2) Go into your EAW directory and open the ReadMe File for ECA v1.4. Listed in there are all the file names for ECA v1.4. Find each one in your EAW directory and delete them. You will then have standard EAW v1.2 flight modeling (and everything else). You can re-install ECA v1.4 again later when everyone here is ready to play online.

3) If you have the hard drive space, install another "Typical" European Air War and patch it to version 1.2. Rename the default directory at installation to European Air War2, or something, so that a separate folder will be established in the MicroproseSoftware Program folder. Make sure that you rename the desktop icon also to make sure you can differentiate between the 2 versions. When going to the Zone to fly with others outside our Squadron, (you traitor), be sure to open that version of EAW.

4) Install "Scorpion's Enabler v2.1", another EAW Add-On, which will allow you to switch between all the different flight models available. From what I have read about the installation of this little Add-On (40Kb), it is a bit complicated, but well worth the time and effort. I have not installed it though, and probably won't, because I have the 2 separate installs on my machine and I really don't want to complicate EAW to that degree.

5) Get your online kicks playing CFS until the rest of us are ready to play.

If you want to go ahead with the Enabler, let me know and I will dig up the URL addresses for you to go to so you can download it and read the installation instructions.

Talk to you all after I get some sleep.....zzzzzzzzz
Splatt


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posted 05-01-2000 05:15 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Pheeeeeewwwwwww!
Was that an answer, or was that an answer.
Splatt.For once , with crystal clarity understand what you mean. It must be all that practice you gave me downloading this and that.
No, seriously though, that was very clearly put old chap.
Yes , yes I admit I have been trying to sneak onto the zone for a bit of gunnery practice..Now I have been found out and have had my wrist severely slapped . I appologise O' wise one from the Emerald City.
Rest assured I have not been able to get into one game as yet to even take off, let alone shoot someone.
On Saturday evening, I had three attempts, all to no avail and had to switch over to MS Combat...Hey! I did three games. Twelve guys. First to five kills. I won the first match. Lost the second,only for the mere fact that everyone homed in on me and was blasted into oblivion.. But then got back at them and won the third.
I wonder if I will find my trusty Hurricane as nimble in EAW as it is in MS combat.Hence the sneaky practice sessions.

Anyway I think I will take your advice and leave well enough alone. I will either delete the 1.4 files from EAW and put them back when we get our squadron going ( I'll keep the file in downloads) Or as you say, put another version on the hard drive.

Shanya,
Hope you are taking note of all this.
Should save you quite a few headaches when you config the game.
Have you got it yet,or is the missionary late with deliveries up there?
Gotta go now, but will be back later mon braves.
Didn't have time to write much over the past few days, as we had freinds staying for Easter and had to play the host. Strict orders from the Fuhrer."Don't sneak of and fly your sim all evening while your freinds are here and leave me to do all the entertaining".
I tried in vain to get my freind to fly while his wife and mine chattered away in the other room, but he was next to useless. Couldn't even fly in a straight line and he soon lost interest.........Blast !!!!

Dum de dah de de......Am waiting to post this, but my daughter is hogging the phone line. One of her girlfreinds. Christ! What on earth do they find to talk about. Lucky the other girl phoned her ( Not on my bill )
I think they are talking horses. Better than boys I suppose. They both have their own horses stabled on a farm up the road. Bloody great huge thing...You wouldn't catch me getting up there on it.I made the big mistake of taking it some mints some time back and her horse must have remembered, coz the last time I went to see it, the blasted animal nearly floored me trying to nudge me to give it a mint.

Spectre....Are you still alive over there?
Heard anymore about your return to the UK?
Spring is well and truly here now.
Forests carpeted in bluebells.
Went fishing in a lovely secluded lake near me the other day....Caught a mirror carp 20lbs..Boy did that take some getting in.
Oh well...She's off the phone at last now, so I shall post this..
Later good people......Phil.


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posted 05-01-2000 02:33 PM     Profile for Zbop_S7   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello all I am a regular reader of the EAW forum and saw Phils post, thought I'd try to help. I have been flying EAW on-line since Sepetember, and have found it great fun.

If you want to fly ECA, and by ECA I mean the 1.4, the 1.4 update, and the 3.1 panel online, then you need the enabler to switch between the varoius versions. You can probably just fly using 1.4 online as long as everyone's flies match; but online I have only seen people use the complete ECA set-up which includes the 1.4 update and the latest ECA panel 3.1 which enables you to fly new Japanese as well as French planes.


The easiest way is to have to seperate installs of EAW, one for regular EAW and the other strictly for ECA, but if you don't have the disk space, then the enabler is the way to go.


To install the enabler and get it running first go into your EAW directory and make some new folders: Create new folders eaw,eca,ecao,msa,and rip. ( ecao,msa,and rip are other flight models that are used by the EAW online community, for your purposes unless your going to use these other Flight Models, you don't have to install them. I and many others have them because it gives us the ability to be able to play in any game that is going on).

After you have created the folders for the flight models you are going to use.... Copy DATA.CDF, and FLT.CDF (they will look like little satellite dishes) into your new empty eaw folder.

Unzip 1.31 ecao into the ecao folder.

Unzip MSA into the msa folder.

Unzip Rip into rip folder.

Unzip ECA 1.4, then 1.4 update into eca folder(1.4 update will overwrite and update 1.4 files) and finally unzip ECA 3.1 panel into eca folder.

Unzip Enabler exe into your EAW directory, the MSVBVM60.dll file that Enabler needs goes into your WINDOWS/System directory, if you used the enabler before it should already be there, if one is not included in the Enabler zip, you can get it at Relent's site http://www.sonic.net/jcam/eawskins/

Next what I have done is found the Enabler exe icon in EAW directory and dragged a shortcut to my desktop.

Next I have found the ECA 3.1 panel exe in the eca folder and dragged a shortcut to my desktop.

You should be good to go after this has been done. I am sure there are other ways to do it, but this has always worked for me. I play ECA panel, on-line quite a bit.

To play an ECA game online first you have to make sure all have the same set-up. For instance you and I want to play Pacific, so we would bring up the panel using the shortcut and select Pacific 45, after this is done you would bring up the Enabler panel using shortcut on desktop and select INSTALL ECA PANEL then we should be able to play Pacific 45.

If after flying Pacific 45 we decide to change to say Western 45 you would have to first go to ECA panel and click on the re-set button which would bring up the original planes, then change back to EAW V1.2 Flight Models on Enabler Panel....Then click on Western 45, and click INSTALL ECA PANEL on enabler and we should be able to fly.


I should stress that I do all these steps when using Enabler on-line, off-line its easier, but on-line as you know all data has to match. Using the ECA panel with Enabler, on-line is a little tricky at first, but it becomes second nature after using the set-up for awhile.

If your going to just fly ECA 1.4, ect. online then from what I understand you don't need the enabler but can use the utility know as STAB to switch between regular EAW and ECA, but I only use STAB to change skins and terrain so I can't speak as to how this is done. However the read-me included in STAB is pretty good, and if you go through past post at the EAW forum, or post a question about it; I'm sure you'll get an answer.

I would also recommend getting EAW control 2000, its a nifty utility that once intalled brings up a panel from which you can make changes to your ini file without having to open your directory, it also has other features that make it easier to adjust some of the settings in the game.

Here are some url's where you can get these utilites and much more:

Here is a url that explains in detail on how to install enabler, if some of my instructions were unclear or if I missed something you can probably find it here:

http://www.savlan.com/56FG/msa_install.htm

Airbuddha's site the Hanger....http://thehangar.dogfighter.com/

Relent's site: http://www.sonic.net/jcam/eawskins/

E's page: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/6644/

Maj Lee's site http://www.kvi.net/~majorlee/

Wurger's site http://www.geocities.com/weurger/main.htm


I hope this helps some, or at least gets you pointed in the right direction.



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posted 05-01-2000 02:43 PM     Profile for splatterpunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Like I said, Phil......"Scorpion's Enabler v2.1" is kind of "involved" to install.

Thanks for your input ZBop.


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Zbop,
Jeeeeezuz!!
I shall definately have to print that one out and study it for an evening.
Well you certainly answered my question there, and then some..LOL
Very kind of you , thanks.

Splatt..You where certainly right on that one...I hope you are reading this Shanya !!!!!!
Phil.


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OK,
Have re-installed EAW minus the 1.4 patch and can now fly online at MSN zone.
I have kept 1.4 in downloads for future use.

I will try ZBobs solution in the near future, if everyone else is going to fly with 1.4.
I think initialy, If we are to form this sqaudron, we should perhaps play on line a couple of times with just the ordinary version to get the hang of things, unless you are all geared up to play with 1.4, then I will load it back into the game.

Anyway....So who has EAW. I know Bball ,Splatt, Yoda , Hostile and Admiral have.Just a case of waiting for Nanukess of the North to get into combat mode.....And what about Spectre.Are you going to join our merry throng?
Phil....


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posted 05-02-2000 03:20 PM     Profile for splatterpunk   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Phil: Glad you got everything squared away over there so you can get your on-line jollies with EAW. There is one thing I wanted to point out to you, however, as I think you may have mis-understood something. If not, bear with me, as I am only trying to clarify.

That lengthy procedure of installing "Enabler" is ONLY necessary if you want to switch around to different flight-model files for joining on-line flying with different groups of flyers/games-in-progress. If we, our Squadron, all have ECA 1.4 installed in our EAW directory, we will NOT require "Enabler" to fly with each other. "Enabler", if installed, will allow you, with the click of your mouse, to install and "enable" different folders containing flight-model file groupings into your EAW directory.

I guess it really depends on how much on-line flying you intend to do. For me, installing "Enabler" would not be necessary, as the folks here in this forum are the only ones I intend to fly on-line with, as well as, a good friend of mine here locally for an occasional 1v1. "Enabler" would be ideal for someone that intends to do the majority of their EAW flying on-line.

It just occurred to me that I haven't the foggiest idea which flight-model anyone else here is using. For the record everyone, who is using which flight-model?

Hope I didn't just explain what you already knew, Phil. Talk to you later.......

Splatt


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posted 05-03-2000 10:32 AM     Profile for Phil47     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Splatt,
Yeh I think I understand that one. I'm just going to keep the game bog standard for now until we all agree on a setup.

Hey folks.. Met up with a fellow Brit on line the other day, who ironicaly lives in the same county of England as me."Davbaron" Dave and I had a chat on ICQ and went off to the zone for a quick private game....Hey This guy is good!!!
I don't think a single shot was fired for the first five minutes, as we couldn't get eachother lined up for a shot. Now that's what I call a good game. Lots of strategy being used, not like the usual zone thing of people holding down the trigger for about five minutes at a time. I think our longest bursts were only about 3 secs. ( that,s about all I got before he countered the attack.A good flyer and a really nice guy.
Definately squadron material.Well R.A.F off course. What does one expect...ha ha ha.

I asked him to pop over to our little watering hole for a chat. Splatt!!!! I think he may have a question for you regarding a set up....LOL. Well you are our resident expert on these matters.
Watch out though folks.Dave is a retired policeman..Yes a real ENGLISH BOBBY.And he's got EAW.
Handcuffs at the ready and using a pointed blue flying helmet.
Sorry Dave if you are reading this..Couldn't resist letting the cat out of the bag.

Shanya..You don't seem to having much luck getting your copy of EAW..That is one of the things you have to put up with, when the missionary only calls twice a year I suppose.
Here I am joking about the cold lattitudes of your homeland of Alaska, but I was gobsmacked the other day when I took a closer look at where you live on a big atlas.
In fact you are not that much further North than me.. In fact I would say only about 500 miles or so, and you are on about the same lat as the North of Scotland..Well I was really suprised to find that one out..One sure does live and learn.
See you all later and hope you will drop in for a chat Dave.
Phil..


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posted 05-03-2000 11:35 AM     Profile for Shanya   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, getting EAW (for a reasonable price) has proved more of a daunting task than originally considered. No bargain software bins here! I think it's a plot to keep me out of the virtual skies. Still working on it, however... Phil dear, perhaps next time you drop by the igloo you could bring me a copy?

Yep, always makes me laugh when you lot in England express awe at my living in Alaska, as it's really not that cold in Southeast as a general rule, glaciers notwithstanding. Heck, on hot days (meaning about +18C and above) I like to go swimming in Mendenhall Lake with the icebergs (I'm not kidding!).

However, this time next year I may be in Fairbanks, and then we'll talk about cold... and (in the summer) heat.

I've taken a job at the flight school, taking care of the front counter and teaching ground whenever I get the chance (get paid a bit more for that). I also get free flight time, so as you might imagine I'm flying at every opportunity.

Speaking of, there's a 172 out there with my name on it. See you all later!

Shanya

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Phil - Thanks for the intro. Hello everybody. I hope I'm not intruding on your potential squadron- I'd like to join if i may. I'm not as good as Phil says but I'm willing and keen to learn. I've done the rounds on F$, CFS and Mig Alley. Not expertly got into any of them but since returning to EAW it has become my favourite. Especially since I use the CFS terrains(summer and winter and autumn)and some skins downloaded from www.thehangar.dogfighter.com/ I am running at 1600 x1200 version 1.2.
The question I was going to ask re setup is now not needed. I had uninstalled EAW in order to re install as 1.2 and I messed up the system so that I couldnt load from CD rom discs! ( clever ,eh? <g> ) However Phil gave me a suggestion and it worked , so my beloved EAW is back!
I look forward to your company and flying with you, if I may. I hope to be accepted but one Dorset yokel may be enough for you-lol

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Hello Dave! Welcome to our lair. You are indeed a bold man to have dared to enter.

So far as I'm concerned, you are most welcome to join this disjointed squadron, and anyone objecting can take it up with me and the sharpened rifle behind the hangar later on. Really, can we ever have too many from Dorset?

Shanya


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Hi Dave.....

Welcome.

Yoda


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Dave,

Welcome to the gang. If we can tolerate Phil, we'll put up with almost anyone.

Phil,

I finally got the Zone software to work again (the password file was corrupted somehow). When is the squadron going to meet online? Are you going to set up a "private" game and send us the password? My id there is hp_53.


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Davbaron,

Welcome sir!

Although you have wonderful taste in flight sims, I must question your taste in "online mates".......hehe.

Shanya,

The forces are enroute, the loadmaster has told me the airdrop will come off as planned. Put that big red X somewhere handy...

Am looking forward to flying online with this "rainbow squadron", but right now am very busy with another LAN, getting Frugal to the USA in one piece (and home in the same condition), and that pesky thing called life.

Later,

BBall


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Ooooooo!,
With friends like that, who needs enemies:

Hostile.yeh I will ICQ you all with a password..It's got more than three letters though..Will you be able to remember it? Take that you !?*!??? Ha ha ha.

You know it's funny,but every time I phone the States to book something and give them my address, for some reason it sends them into a quivering wrecks.
A couple of years ago I phoned Atlanta to reserve some tickets for a football match the kids wanted to see.
It took the woman on the other end 45 min to get my address right.
Part of my address is Bla bla..Nr Beaminster.
She wouldn't have it. First she aked me if I lived in Boneminster . After I spelled it about twenty times and explained that I didn't live IN Beaminster, but NEAR Beaminster, which is what one would write if posting something to a rural Hamlet in the UK. She then asked me for my Zip..... I explained that we don't have zip codes, but postal codes which I then gave her.The DT*** part of the code standing for DORSET. Well after 30 min we had arrived at DT Boneminster Cottage Near England..
She had a real southern Draawwwl Y'all and kept giggling and saying that I spoke "Real funny".
I assured her that it wasn't me who was speaking funny and what she was hearing was good old Queens English.Eventualy I had to ask her if there was anyone else there I could speak to as my wife was in hysterics by this time and I couldn't speak without exploding into fits of laughter.The next person I spoke to did get it right after about 10 minutes. All I wanted to tell them ,was that it was,

********* cottage,
*********
Near Beaminster,
Dorset.
DT****,
England.

Now it seems much quicker if I just book from over here with a company in London.

Mind you I do love the hootin and hollering the Americans do when exited.
We went to a cowboy cookout in Arizona some years back and the conversation from the guy on stage in this big marquee got onto local history and the age of some of the log cabins.
He then explained that some of the cabins dated back to 1840... There was some hootin and hollering at this.
Then he announced over the mic that "We have some Brits in here tonight and I suppose you have seen some older buildings over there?"
When I shouted back that we lived in a cottage that was built in 1660, the whole ******* place seemed to errupt as if just flown in from Mars. The whooping and hollering seemed to go on for ages and we were surrounded by people buying us drinks all night.

Heck though..What nice people..I wish you could get that sort of atmosphere in a place in the UK.. Sadly not.
Thats why we enjoy the States so much.

Anyway.....Gotta go now..Gonna meet Dave tonight for a game on the zone of EAW. We tried it yesterday but had to abort as it kept saying he had different files even though he changed them.... We'll try again tonight.
Bball..What a Gentleman for arranging a copy of EAW to be sent out to our Lady of the northern territories.
Looking forward to it all coming together.
Phil....



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Well...Phil, we Americans rely a lot on computers, and you know how dumb computers are. They require precise and explicit data; they don't understand "fuzzy logic" like "near this" or "close to that". So, next time don't give that Southern gal a hard time. She probably is having a tough enough time with the computer (dang...this THANG has a lot more keys than the calculator, and DAT was real complicated !).
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Hello all - Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate it. After Phil and I flew CFS last night I was a bit down 'cos he gave me a right old thrashing. If you are all as good or better than he is I'm in for a torrid time. His energy management was unbelievable.
Anyway, I have made a second install of EAW and it works on the zone ( Got beat there as well! ) Online is a bit different than against AI lol
Shanya - sure hope you get EAW Cd OK. If anyone deserves to enjoy it , you do reading as to how difficult it has been for you to get a copy.
Next time I play Phil I'll take off my pointed blue hat. The top keeps pushing against the canopy lid and I can't turn my head. A definite hindrance. And the siren's so bloody loud in that cockpit <g>
Thanks again for the welcome

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Hi all,
Very kind and modest words from Dave.. But Ok so maybe I did get him on a couple of occassions but boy! did I have to work hard to do it. He's as slippery as a barrel full of eels. Half the time in a dogfight we don't even see eachother. I thought he had left the game at one point.Buggered if I could find him. It's only when I straightened out to look in the rear view mirror that I spotted the crafty blue pointed hat turning into my six.
We also tried out Roger Wilco, but I will have to get a head mic as Dave could hardly hear me, and I could hear him crystal clear.
I was trying to shout at a mic on the desk.. Most definately need a head mic.
My wife just read Daves post and laughed re the comment about energy management...She said to tell you all that it's a pity I couldn't direct all this energy management into something practical around the house.Ha ha ha..WOMEN!!!!!!! ( well with the exception of one of course).

Hostile..
Sorry to have confused the Southern Belle with my Address..Yes I have certainly learned from my visits to the States that you can't say "Near anything" as it doesn't seem to register.
I was once looking for a motel just outside LA and asked a guy on the road the motel was on if he knew where number 4587 was....

He said he had never heard of it but he thought it may be down the road a bit.
Well down the road a bit was about 20 miles. This bloody road was about 80 miles long, so the people at one end of the road, didn't have the faintest idea who lived down the other end.
Very strange coming from a country where our main roads are about as big as your drive ways.
I live on a main country B road and that is only about 15 foot wide outside my house.
Driving over in the States is definately much easier.
If any of you have ever seen the film "The French Lieutenants Women" (with Meryl Streep).. The road I live on goes straight into that small town where that was filmed.
Imagine a road only 15 foot wide in places feeding a small town like that.
Oh well.Gonna take Maxi my German shepherd dog out for a walk now and drag myself away from the screen . Get my excercise in for the day.ha ha ha.
Hey Dave.Have you ever been to the States?

Well watch out all.Dave and I are practising our R.A.F accents, which I'm sure you will all have a scream at when you hear them..
Lots of "Old chap " and "Tally ho's"

Later good people...Phil...

PS. Am going to post you all a password for EAW on the MSN zone... (If you don't like it,or it is too confusing for the colonials amongst us , we can always change it)... Anyway.blame Dave .He thought of it ha ha ha ..


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Phil.... Don't worry about your accent or Dave's. Wait 'till you hear what Yanks say when they get shot. It sounds nothing like EF2000's "Oh......I'm hit" LOL

Shanya...... Glad things are working out so you can get the flying in up there.

BBall.... F4 LAN weekend is here. Didn't go last night. Friday night is tech night where everyone gets everything straightened out and working. We're using a new set of realism patches that we tested all last week.


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Phil,

A headset with a mike is great. I've been using Roger Wilco for a few weeks. At first, I used a cheap clip-on mike and it didn't work very well. Went out and got a headset/mike for $20 and things are much better now.

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Better Late than Never...That thing BBall referred to, Life, has been keeping me away from here. Shanya, did you miss me? No? Why not? You had more enjoyable things to think about, like root-canals and tax audits? Oh well.....at least the plots against my life have ceased! Seriously, I hope all is going well for you lately and that you are keeping up your spirits. How's the teaching? Has the Cargo flight made it's drop yet that BBall arranged? How about Frugal's, how's that going?

HI Dave!!! Looking forward to flying with you/against you and the accents you and Phil are working on. Wait till Ya'll get a load of my Suthrin' US accent! LOL And I see we share a hobby, the RC Gliders. What type? Thermal or Ridge? I've got a couple of 2 meter thermal gliders, 1 ridge, and 2 un-built 2.5 meter thermals. Need a bigger building space and vehicle to haul that wing in.

Phil: Sounds like EAW is working out just fine for you there on the zone. Are you liking it? Since you are the zone master of the crowd, soon I will be asking for YOUR assistance to getting squared away and hooked up with the zone as a return favor for my assist with EAW. What do you say? BTW, are you and Dave flying with AI or strictly 1v1?

I know what you mean about those roads that you speak of, that is, if they are similar to the roads in Ireland. I had the pleasure of being the designated driver in Ireland last Summer for 5 days in the Southwest. Wonderful people and an incredibly beautiful place. I even found the remains of the little village (Kilifin) where my Great, Great Grandmother had walked out of as a teen-ager to make her way to America. Anyway, I had a straight-shift, I was on the left (wrong!)side of the road, round-abouts to figure out, and those skinny, country lanes bordered by stone and greenery that were referred to as National Highways. Here, they would be considered one-lane back-roads. The locals averaged about 120kmh on the friggin things!! I still have the impressions of the steering wheel from that car imbedded in my hands.

Admiral: ? What happened to Admiral? Spectre is domesticating, but what is Admiral up to? YO NELSON !!! Where'd you go? Have you been abducted in Washington for writing about a conspiracy theory??? Wazzupwiddat?

Hostile: Have you seen Dorothy? See, I found this little dog and.......No, just joshin'...I have a question or two for you: Do you know if Roger Wilco will work with a SoundBlaster Live! Value edition sound card? Also, what mic/headset did you get? If I need to replace my sound card, I need to get on that since we are getting very close to being able to assemble the Squad on-line.

Hello BBall, Yoda, and anyone I left out, sorry, but I've got to cut this off...I'll talk with ya'll later
Splatt


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Splatt....
I use RW with an SBLive all the time for MSFS ATC. Works fine.

I've re-installed EAW and upped to 1.2. Now I have to get back up to speed. Will dnload all the other files. Hope I get my rudders back from CH soon. Don't fly worth a hoot without them, like yawing around the sky with the horn going off. Used to fly that way back when also LOL


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Well, hello all, and yes even to you Splatt. Oh yes, I missed you just as I always do when I throw something. You're hard to hit from here, after all.

Sitting at the flight school this afternoon, enjoying the quiet (all the instructors and planes are out). No ground students scheduled today, but I might take an instrument lesson myself later on when that instructor gets back... although SSR VOR is out (again... or is that still?), so we might just stay on the ground. Kind of a tough job learning instruments here because our navaids are so few and far between, and SSR is the only VOR in the area. Don't even get me started on how far I'll have to go to get an acceptable instrument cross-country in, either...

So, all you pilots with the hours, what tips can you give me about IFR flight? I'd love to benefit even just a little from your many hours of experience.

No EAW yet, but I'm assured the airdrop should come off sometime early this next week (the red X should be quite visible, BBall!), and you can be sure I'll let you all know when I've got it so you can get beyond this pestering me about getting it and get on with pestering me about getting online with it.

The thing with Frugal's is getting there. The muse has been recalcitrant lately, mostly because I've had such a roller-coaster life these past couple of weeks. Writer's block sums it up pretty well. :P I'll get over it.

One of my friends is supposed to be over tonight for a bit of sim time, and we'll see what she thinks of the GA sim at least. I'll have them try EAW after I get a bit of a handle on it myself.

Anyway, it's lunchtime and I'm hungry, so off I go in search of the wild lunch beast, which, if it's still moving, shall be slain with the dull-but-rather-more-effective-at-a-distance end of the rifle.

Phil, keep an eye out for that yellow Cessna.

Shanya


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Splatt,

Roger Wilco works with many different sound cards, even with the no-name that I have. I got an el cheapo "Labtec" headset/mike at Best Buy for $20. Most of them are sold around that price range at electronics store.

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Hello again,...I couldn't stay away...Like Shanya, you guys are mostly my Social life, and I'm proud to be here.

Hostile and Yoda: Great!! Thanks for the replies and advice. I should be able to get one of those LabTec mics, no problem.

Shanya: I thought I might share with you my thoughts on IFR. To let you know I'm not all HOT air, I have 7600TT of which 1100 is instrument. Some of these things may sound obvious, but just bear with me, O.K.?

1) Use logic and common sense. Try not to let the amount of information in the FAR's and AIM on instrument rules and procedures overwhelm or intimidate you. If you ask yourself, "...now, what would I do if this happened?", or "...how would I go about doing this if I had no instructor to tell me?", you will probably find that the answer you come up with is pretty close.

2) Avoid IFR flying if you can when your thoughts are pre-occupied with something other than the flight. Safe IFR depends on complete focus.

3) If you are EVER unsure or uneasy with the weather and/or your ability, don't go if you don't have to. No points for bravery.

4) If possible, take a buddy on an IFR flight. A second person can be invaluable when you have your hands full of an airplane that is bouncing all over the sky and you need to get set up for the approach. They can also help you with radios, maps, approach charts, flying the plane while you dig for something in your flight bag, like snacks or a set of false buck teeth to break the tension of the weather...( I almost had an FO laugh to death with this one once... )

5) Keep your eyes moving, ALWAYS. NEVER FIXATE. Develop a good scan early and make it a habit. Your instructor should have some good suggestions on types of scans.

6) Don't throw your VFR habits out the window either. Even before turning in solid IFR, still clear that direction...you never know when you might pop through a little hole to your left or right and see something you would want to avoid (Cumulo-nimbus, Cumulo-granite, or another aircraft ATC somehow wasn't able to mention because of priorities, workload factors, or a scud-runner that is just being painted on their scope as a primary)

7) ATC: Become a parrot. Read back everything verbatim, especially your complete tail number. This helps the controllers know exactly who just gave them a read-back.

8) Try not to get in the habit of "trusting" ATC and blindly follow the clearances you receive. (Any controllers reading this, I have the utmost respect for your abilities and pressures, so please don't think that I am saying anything negative about ATC) When you have received a clearance, think about it. Is this a clearance I should be receiving at this location? Was that clearance safe for me to execute now? Was that clearance going to turn me into that really dark, black area over there that I really don't want to get near? Am I positive that clearance was for me? Once again, if there is any doubt what-so-ever, question ATC and don't do anything until you are comfortable with the clearance and you are sure it's yours.

9) Know your airplane like you know yourself. Go out on VFR days and figure out what power settings give you which speeds in which aircraft configurations in stable flight, descents, and climbs. Flying good stable approaches, and IFR in general, is so much easier when you can set pitch attitudes and power settings for the different flap and gear settings and get the approach airspeed and descent rate nailed. If you are trying to figure all of this out while flying an approach, you will find an approach to be a real bear. The aerodynamics of an aircraft is a constant.

10) Prepare yourself and the aircraft thoroughly for the flight as far in advance as you possibly can. Get as much current knowledge as exists at the time of your proposed flight...( updated charts, weather obs. and forecasts, PIREPS, etc. )

That's all I can think of off the top of my head...The mechanics of IFR will become second nature quickly to any good pilot, of which I know you are. BBall? What can you add to this?

Have Fun!!!
Splatt


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