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Bonzonie
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posted 11-21-2000 12:44 AM     Profile for Bonzonie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What will the USN do about the USS Cole? With the USN repair it and put it back into service? or would it do something else?

I've heard that the bomb blew a pretty big hole.

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Skoonj
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posted 11-21-2000 05:53 AM     Profile for Skoonj   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It will be repaired and placed back in service. I don't think the damage was as severe as on USS Belknap, which was placed back in service after a collision and fire that wiped out the entire superstructure.

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posted 11-21-2000 06:37 AM     Profile for bob671   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I remember reading/hearing the suggestion that the keel had been much more badly damaged than had previously been thought, and that it may not be economically viable, or even possible, to repair the Cole completely.

Anyone else remember reading/hearing this, or if that has been positively updated?


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Bonzonie
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posted 11-21-2000 07:26 AM     Profile for Bonzonie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Didn't the Belknap have Nuclear weapons when it collided? I have read that the Belknap had transmitted the "Broken arrow" message to 6th fleet headquarters after it collided("Broken arrow" was if I remember right, a code for a severe nuclear mishap).

I hope the USS cole as well as it's courageous crew will get well soon.

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posted 11-21-2000 04:22 PM     Profile for Su-27   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Broken Arrow= Theft, Loss, or Unautherized detonation of a Nuclear Device
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posted 11-21-2000 11:02 PM     Profile for SDavis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Its a $150-200m fix-er-upper! I think that the USN might consider its reapairs, atleast for psycological reasons.

[This message has been edited by SDavis (edited 11-21-2000).]


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Bonzonie
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posted 11-22-2000 02:26 AM     Profile for Bonzonie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The monthy magazine has had it wrong!! Now I know what it really means. thanks.

Where is the Cole right now?

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posted 11-22-2000 10:34 AM     Profile for Skoonj   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It might have been a Bent Spear.

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Skoonj
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posted 11-22-2000 04:11 PM     Profile for Skoonj   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Or maybe a Flacid Phallus?

Skoonj

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Bonzonie
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posted 11-22-2000 06:38 PM     Profile for Bonzonie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes. Might have been bent spear. Anyway, It didn't lead to anything big. Good thing.

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posted 11-23-2000 02:53 AM     Profile for Skater   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
From the information that I can find on that, the Belknap issued a standard alert to CINCLANT some time after the incident indicating that a possibility of a nuclear mishap involving nuclear weapons could happen.

This was SOP at the time for all vessels whether nuclear weapons were aboard or not, because the US Navy neither confirms or denies the existence of nuclear weapons aboard any active vessel. The Belknap's Command were simply following procedure. The fact that there is not much more information on this available, to me, indicates:

1) an accident involving nuclear weapons did not take place nor was likely

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2) the Belknap most probably was not underway with nuclear weapons at that particular time

However, the secrecy involving naval nuclear ordinance, and other types of classified weapons, may also indicate that any accident or possible accident, however likely, may have been quietly covered up.

The Navy is very good at keeping secrets. Trust me on that. Even within the Navy, disinformation is the order of the day. So who really knows...

-Skater


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posted 11-25-2000 04:27 PM     Profile for Abrams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Broken Arrow IIRC means that a nuke has been lost and the location is unknown.

My father who flew B-52's said there was a few ditchings of nukes but the AF knew where they were and they didn't have to issue a broken arrow alert.


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posted 11-25-2000 04:40 PM     Profile for tony draper   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wish they would come and collect this f*****g
one its been lying uder a hole in my roof for the last 17 years

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Bonzonie
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posted 11-25-2000 04:53 PM     Profile for Bonzonie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Could someone post a list the meanings of all the broken arrows and bents spears?

Thanks

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