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Topic: Talk the talk, Now walk the walk
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-19-2000 12:01 AM
   
I am here night after night and i read these postings, about how all these guys wanna learn to fly on-line, however, when somebody calls the ball on them, they do not respond, my intention is not to invoke negative opinions of flight sims, but as a former Driver mud-mover in Thuds, and Phantoms, it seems to me you guys would want to know head to head, invest a little time and enhance your knowledge of aviation history and the thought of rreally being there, open your minds and you can, an imagination is an engine that can take you to the stars, I am an angry person, angry at myself for events that were out of my hands, now I do not fly, but my mind is still up there, above the clouds on a full moon night angels 20 cruising into gods light, and appraising his gift to me, the gift of flight, and now with the aid of the flight sim I CAN duplicate it to an extent, and it curbs my anger, and helps to quell the thirst of being there, If you gentlemen only knew, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO PUT YOUR MINDS TO ANYTHING, Join a Flight group of your choice......AFTER FALCON......EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST A GAME J R FERRELL CAPT USMCR(Ret) 
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-19-2000 12:24 PM
Thanks Thunder, There is one other ISP that you might want to download and try, it has no banners www.freewwweb.com, at least last time I used it there were none, do not know why I did not think about it sooner, I am trying to recruit people to start a wing totally dedicated to CAS, and Mud moving, and dedicating to the Downtown club (vietnam) cause a lot of my friends never came home........may god guide your stick, watch your six Delta out
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posted 10-19-2000 12:49 PM
You could try to download freeDSL from www.winfire.com they have a free dialup as well, and for IE, my burb in Chicago has three seperate login #'s so if anythings wrong I just dial another. It doesn't have banners (unless you get the freeDSL DSL service, but you do have a status bar you can't get rid of, but they fixed it so it doesn't affect any gaming.. Try it, it's free, and if you don't like it.. least ya didn't pay for it... quote:
Originally posted by Bluethunder:
Hello Delta Duece I understand how you feel. I also love flying and sometimes it gets to me that some people show like they want to fly but then when you look for them they're never online. Well in my case my ISP is really acting up and i think theyre going bankrupt. Also im getting on my wifes nerves for coming home from work and sitting infront of the monitor for a long time. I think sometimes she is right but i think its better than being out there with a hooker or something. I see how you feel. I wish so much to have more time. I just got out of the Pyramid competition cause of time issues and the above mentioned. I just want to belong to a group that gets online whenever and i dont have to set appointments cause then i feel stuck. I wonder if something like that comes up soon. I know you tried to help me the other night, but i got disconnected big time, and couldnt log on again, now im using Bluelight.com free ISP and im able to get online for a long time, its just that i havent figured out how to prevent from being disconnected when i move the add Banner. If i dont move the Add banner it covers the bottom part of the screen and i dont get disconnected, but once the game begins, and i try to commit, the banner wont let me click on the commit planes. I hope i can get over this soon. Hopefully if im online this weekend you can help me. take care delta deuce your a nice person..
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posted 10-19-2000 05:28 PM
Delta Duece, you are sounding hypocrytical using that title phrase.You attempt to "talk the talk", but I suspect your "walk" had nothing to do with ever flying real jets. I was under the impression that some people around here were more mature than perhaps they are and wouldn't fall for this hook, line and sinker. My email address is jaytee389@hotmail.com If you want we can arrange to have an online session together (get Roger Wilco first). Just drop the facade though first and then maybe we can have some real fun. BTW, I flew the Mirage IIIO with 75 Sqn, Royal Australian Air Force from '75 to '78 so I'd be more than happy to swap anecdotes with you.
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-19-2000 05:44 PM
With all due respect their Jeepster I was not aware Aussies even had an air farce, You guys taking donations You have my ICQ it is posted, and to the rest of you gentlemen who were not aware of the USMC having Thuds, We did not, but have you ever heard the term slip seat Double check History, prior to pulling the trigger, VMMF231 Danang, and yes gnetlemen, It would be a pleasure to fly with you, this statement is not intended to be derogatory to anyone, however, should you choose to make it that way...By the way I did fly with some good US Army types as well who shall we say borrowed a few Marine F4's quote:
Originally posted by Jeepster:
Delta Duece, you are sounding hypocrytical using that title phrase.You attempt to "talk the talk", but I suspect your "walk" had nothing to do with ever flying real jets. I was under the impression that some people around here were more mature than perhaps they are and wouldn't fall for this hook, line and sinker. My email address is jaytee389@hotmail.com If you want we can arrange to have an online session together (get Roger Wilco first). Just drop the facade though first and then maybe we can have some real fun. BTW, I flew the Mirage IIIO with 75 Sqn, Royal Australian Air Force from '75 to '78 so I'd be more than happy to swap anecdotes with you.
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Jeepster
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posted 10-19-2000 09:18 PM
You are kidding right?Did you even realise that we (as in Australia) fought alongside "you" in the SEA conflict? If you want to play computer games with other people online then that's fine but please don't insult the thousands of honest men that genuinely were involved by pretending to be something that you clearly were not! Grow up and get smart. I never flew the F-4 Phantom myself, but I knew of guys that did, both with the RAAF and the USAF. As I said, I would love to chat with you about both the Phantom and the Mirage if we can get a chance. Both machines (along with the RAF's Lightnings, which I was fortunate enough to see on occasion) were probably the last of the great "pilot's plane's", but I'm sure some F-15 and F-16 pilots would beg to differ! And "air farce"? Well atleast you have a sense of humour! Have a good one.
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-20-2000 05:22 PM
Gentlemen, I apologize if you have taken offense to a message that was aimed intirely at people who have a strong desire to fly, NOT LITERARY CRITICS, the amazing thing is, How certain people, can turn something with good intentions into morbid crock, I owe you nothing you owe me nothing, If you have flown before and I (unlike yourselves) give you the benefit of the doubt, I am 48 years old, I originally joined the USMC as a PVT E1, and upon completeing my BA (ichtheology) I re-enlisted under the CWO program, and flew UH1A.....and UH1B helecopters, in SAR, when a program opened for Jets, I was approved, and took my training at USNFTS, Pensacola, Fl, where I earned a butter bar O1 14 years later, as a result of faulty equiptment counter gyro link I lost control of the aircraft.....well, I will not tell you the whole story, so I do give you this much..........May God guide your stick.....Delta out
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BEAR-257th
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posted 10-20-2000 05:56 PM
Some interesting math.2000-48years old 1990-38years old 1980-28years old 1972 USMC out of Nam 1970-18years old 1969-17years old Early enlistment with parents approval? Would like to know how you finished your first enlistment, finished college, trained on helos & flew SAR (18 month program), converted to fast movers (a two year program) finally going back to the nam to fly with both the USMC & the USAF between 1969 & 1972? BEAR
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TG
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posted 10-20-2000 07:18 PM
I wish there was a place or a server where guys could fly cooporative missions or even campaigns.Most times I cant get to do this because in my area the best ISP is a dial up and its rarely available with enough BW to keep it honest. Always disconnecting and busy signals grrr!
I have cable access to but its a joke in these parts. DL speed is fine, but stupid cheap a%% hybrids need a phone line to complete the connection so it cant support gaming very well because the xmit/receive rates are so vastly different  No DSL available so Im just stuck unless I move elsewhere. Too bad really, I love F4 and it IS the best sim there is today.
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brewsky
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posted 10-20-2000 07:24 PM
You know I was watching on 60 min. one time about several of these guys who go around saying they had earned a Congressional Medal of Honor. They had whole community’s fooled, till they were exposed by this highly motivated veteran! It's really not worth the embarassment.
Well anyway, I checked my notes on WHO was stationed at DaNang. Jim maybe you could double check this Marine Muster roll for me. The Grey Ghosts and the recon F-4 squadron I already mentioned.
At different times DaNang also had these
REAL PHANTOM DRIVERS 
VMFA-115 Silver Eagles(at Udorn also).
1967 VMAF-122 Crusaders, VMAF-232 Red Devils, VMAF-314 Black Knights, VMAF-323 Death Rattlers, VMAF-334 Falcons,
VMAF-513 Flying Nightmares and the
VMFA-542 Tigers. All used F4-B’s and some J’s.
There was also a huge amount of effort given by A-6 and F-8’s. These were VMA-242 Bats, VMA-225 Vikings, VMF(AW)-312 F-8 Checkerboards VMF(AW)-235 F-8 Death Angles.
The Battalions from the 3rd and 1st.Marine
Divisions had TAOR(tactical area of responsibility) for DaNang. Other Marine
Battalions such as the 2/26th had perimeter
defense.
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brewsky
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posted 10-20-2000 08:37 PM
On the positive side,
he helped ensure that
we got our facts absolutely straight for
Da Nang, and those who served their.The 7th and 1st Marine HQ's were at Chu Lai.
The 3d Marines were redeployed to the DMZ at DONG Ha. Da Nang had the 9th, plus the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing,and 1st Marine Infantry Division. We will need to include the transport and Cobra helicopter's that operated out of the
Marble Mountain Air Facility. I'll get those units next weekend. I'll talk to snakeman about including all
of these details. [This message has been edited by brewsky (edited 10-21-2000).]
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-21-2000 04:08 AM
Talk about being a Hipocrite, Like I have stated before I owe you nothing you get nothing, your history is not as concise as you are led to believe, OH exscuse me, you were there, This forum is not designed for the use of vindicative attacks on people, however, there are those of you who choose this, I gave you my age, and you make some grand deductive reasoning from that, You had better make a trip to the Deoartnment of the Navy in D.C., and do a re-eval of your educational status, just who the hell are you anyway mister gamer... the only thing you have flown so-far is your hunt and peck, pinky on the keyboard, therefore if you have nothing nice to say keep you ass out of someone elses bussiness, as stated previously, I posted this in the forum in hopes that some of the people out there, would garner the courage to fly head-to-head, or in groups on the internet, and somewhere out there are teens who have this in the bones love for this little thing called aviation, next time look first before you leap into something you have no clue of, you chose to fire A-A's and all you fired were insults, and I guess this little forum gives you that right, I have read other postings of yours here and have yet to see a positive influence there, therefore get a life there guy, and as faR AS THE AUSSIES IN Nam, most were square hardfighters, and goodtimers, but very...very....very...few stationed with U.S. Air Units.. and as far as the Thud goes, or the Rock(Phantom) the differences and characteristics in the seat were as different as daylight and dark, also the feel of the carriage of a ground based F4 vs a carrier based F4, no I never have had a cat launch, but have had a 4 wire arrested landing (terra firma), If you must know further Yep I enlisted with my parents consent, and signature, alng with 2 brothers 1 army, 1 Navy, and it was their influence that brought me to complete my degree, still as in todays standards, you can complete degrees, while on active duty, and the USMC CWO program was 6 months and at Quantico, Va, You need to watch more movies.....Now shut the ____ up, and listen up, you might learn something
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-21-2000 04:26 AM
JimG slip seating is a term that was used in relation to a pilot who qualified with different frames, and if you were available and another pilot was not, i.e. injury, etc etc etc you flew his sortie, in short let's say you are a visitor to KNA (Kadena, Okinawa) and you were stationed in PI (Phillipines), with the base commanders permission you could fly a mission on a TDY status.. quote:
Originally posted by JimG:
Mr. Delta Deuce, with all due respect sir, I was wondering about something in your post and hope you can clarify yourself:
"but as a former Driver mud-mover in Thuds, and Phantoms," and then: "J R FERRELL CAPT USMCR(Ret).
I wasn't aware that the USMC ever flew Thuds.
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Delta Deuce
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posted 10-21-2000 04:36 AM
It was a joke son.....a joke...man you need to relax, I have some fond memories of australia, I was involved in a NATO operation of the coast of, I believe it was a town called Rockland in 1976, sorry can't recall the operation it was a landing excercise for the grunts of the 3d Marine Division, and the Dutch, and the Australian Army, I rather like Australia, like is to soft of a word, and I would not trade my memories of the people zI met. for anything in the world, the Marines made a beach landing with amphibs, 1t started sinking in quicksand, and it was the townspeople who were there first to help recover the vehicle, and men who were in it...that is what I mean.... I meant no slight to Australia, or it's people quote:
Originally posted by Jeepster:
You are kidding right?Did you even realise that we (as in Australia) fought alongside "you" in the SEA conflict? If you want to play computer games with other people online then that's fine but please don't insult the thousands of honest men that genuinely were involved by pretending to be something that you clearly were not! Grow up and get smart. I never flew the F-4 Phantom myself, but I knew of guys that did, both with the RAAF and the USAF. As I said, I would love to chat with you about both the Phantom and the Mirage if we can get a chance. Both machines (along with the RAF's Lightnings, which I was fortunate enough to see on occasion) were probably the last of the great "pilot's plane's", but I'm sure some F-15 and F-16 pilots would beg to differ! And "air farce"? Well atleast you have a sense of humour! Have a good one.
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posted 10-21-2000 06:55 AM
Your math is all screwed turd....go back to school do you have a birthday or were you hatched....the us ended hostilities in April 1974....so shut the Hel_ up and mind your own buissiness, or I thump your a__ for him...In addition to being an Invader I also am serial killer with 41 victims, you make 42 quote:
Originally posted by BEAR-257th:
Some interesting math.2000-48years old 1990-38years old 1980-28years old 1972 US out of Nam 1970-18years old 1969-17years old Early enlistment with parents approval? Would like to know how you finished your first enlistment, finished college, trained on helos & flew SAR (18 month program), converted to fast movers (a two year program) finally going back to the nam to fly with both the USMC & the USAF between 1969 & 1972? BEAR
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posted 10-21-2000 07:03 AM
Figures another PC gamer, visited your ugly site....Nuked it with zenomorphius 235 raygun, besides dummy fast mover program was 9 to 12 mos, in 1970, provided you had the quals and scores....stick with PC's you will do better quote:
Originally posted by BEAR-257th:
Some interesting math.2000-48years old 1990-38years old 1980-28years old 1972 US out of Nam 1970-18years old 1969-17years old Early enlistment with parents approval? Would like to know how you finished your first enlistment, finished college, trained on helos & flew SAR (18 month program), converted to fast movers (a two year program) finally going back to the nam to fly with both the USMC & the USAF between 1969 & 1972? BEAR
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posted 10-21-2000 07:15 AM
Hey dummy you as an aussie,and flying frog aircraft, obviously have a problem, the aussies do not have an Air Force, unless they have been shopping KMart models section, and I do not have a qualm about insulting them, because obviously the best part of Australia is still under water..obviously you can't walk the walk, cause you havn't learned to crawl yet..go away you bug me (aims raygun at australia) quote:
Originally posted by Jeepster:
Delta Duece, you are sounding hypocrytical using that title phrase.You attempt to "talk the talk", but I suspect your "walk" had nothing to do with ever flying real jets. I was under the impression that some people around here were more mature than perhaps they are and wouldn't fall for this hook, line and sinker. My email address is jaytee389@hotmail.com If you want we can arrange to have an online session together (get Roger Wilco first). Just drop the facade though first and then maybe we can have some real fun. BTW, I flew the Mirage IIIO with 75 Sqn, Royal Australian Air Force from '75 to '78 so I'd be more than happy to swap anecdotes with you.
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posted 10-21-2000 02:40 PM
Delta Duce,You are one of two things 1. the quickest learner of all time or 2. you are a major league putz & a very, very bad lier. My vote goes with #2 as all marine assets in nam were gone on June 16, 1972 when you were 19/20 years old based on your claim of being 48 now. A NATO exercise in Austrailia? Hey, did you ever do the Warsaw Pact long reach exercise in Peoria? As a professional courtesy maybe you can tell me, a US Army (1963/69) Sr. Tracked Vehicle Recovery Mechanic, exactly how a bunch of civies recoverd a bogged amtrac? As for the other suff after your mommy signed for you in 1969 at 17(junior/senior in high school) did you actually graduate HS? Are you still in HS? You really expect us to believe that you finished boot camp, completed four years of college with a BA (actually you should have gotten a BS for ichtheology), reinlisted (I expect that as you reinlisted you did your 4 year comitment & 4 years of college at the same time) took CWO training, learned to fly a helo, completed the course & were assigned to a SAR unit. You then applied & transfered to fastmover school(college degree required)completed the course, were assigned to a Da Nang based squadron as a FNG, had plenty of time left over to hang with the USAF guys & learn how to fly the F105. You ofcourse had to learn to fly it on your own cause there were no 2 seaters anywhere near Da Nang. BTW the last single seat F-105's were withdrawn in Dec,1970 when you were maybe 18 years old & by 1971 had already been assigned to ANG units On June 16, 1972 MAG 15 redeployed from Da Nang to Nam Phong, Thailand where the group continued to support operations of the Seventh Air Force against the Communist forces both in Vietnam and Cambodia. This was the LAST USMC air asset in Nam. You were 19 years old at the time Now before you jump in & say what you really ment was F-105F/G two seaters like you discribed above, in your F4 VS 105 seat difference nonsence, Y'all gotta remember that the F/G models were the Wild Weasel's based in Tahkli & Korat RTAFB which is a real long walk from Da Nang. They (354th/6010th)were also withdrawn in mid/late 1971 when you were 18/19 years old (replaced by F-4's). The only other two seat F-105 the "C" model was never production built. Gee sorry about that, y'all might have had a shot at the scam with a production "C" in inventory!! So are y'all about to do the 'right thing' and as JimG requested, admit it and gracefully apologize to those who really did go? Nah never happen, DD is just some no class turkey, without a clue. BEAR
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posted 10-21-2000 11:07 PM
I suppose the military discarded the use of the C-47, and the Sandman too right Talk about a loser.....You speculate, should I post a DD214, or would you just like to visit me in Ohio... You insult people you do not know, and who the hell pulled your chain ....Tell you what clown, give me an address I will mail you 1 enlisted GCM, 1 set of silver enlisted wings 1 Viet Campaign ribbon, 1 Combat action riboon, and several others right before I shove them down your throat People really love the crap that Idiots like you dish, don't they homer, or is it gomer....Or is it just simmer, wanniby, the only air you will ever arise to is the hot air that ejects from putridity, (wanna borrow my dictionary), further more I do not think you would know a hard-point from a hard-on...I would love to spend just 15 minutes with you CLOWN, OH and by the way I would chop your damned legs off, cause I donn't have any, FEEL BETTER ASSHOLE quote:
Originally posted by BEAR-257th:
Delta Duce,You are one of two things 1. the quickest learner of all time or 2. you are a major league putz & a very, very bad lier. My vote goes with #2 as all marine assets in nam were gone on June 16, 1972 when you were 19/20 years old based on your claim of being 48 now. A NATO exercise in Austrailia? Hey, did you ever do the Warsaw Pact long reach exercise in Peoria? As a professional courtesy maybe you can tell me, a US Army (1963/69) Sr. Tracked Vehicle Recovery Mechanic, exactly how a bunch of civies recoverd a bogged amtrac? As for the other suff after your mommy signed for you in 1969 at 17(junior/senior in high school) did you actually graduate HS? Are you still in HS? You really expect us to believe that you finished boot camp, completed four years of college with a BA (actually you should have gotten a BS for ichtheology), reinlisted (I expect that as you reinlisted you did your 4 year comitment & 4 years of college at the same time) took CWO training, learned to fly a helo, completed the course & were assigned to a SAR unit. You then applied & transfered to fastmover school(college degree required)completed the course, were assigned to a Da Nang based squadron as a FNG, had plenty of time left over to hang with the USAF guys & learn how to fly the F105. You ofcourse had to learn to fly it on your own cause there were no 2 seaters anywhere near Da Nang. BTW the last single seat F-105's were withdrawn in Dec,1970 when you were maybe 18 years old & by 1971 had already been assigned to ANG units On June 16, 1972 MAG 15 redeployed from Da Nang to Nam Phong, Thailand where the group continued to support operations of the Seventh Air Force against the Communist forces both in Vietnam and Cambodia. This was the LAST USMC air asset in Nam. You were 19 years old at the time Now before you jump in & say what you really ment was F-105F/G two seaters like you discribed above, in your F4 VS 105 seat difference nonsence, Y'all gotta remember that the F/G models were the Wild Weasel's based in Tahkli & Korat RTAFB which is a real long walk from Da Nang. They (354th/6010th)were also withdrawn in mid/late 1971 when you were 18/19 years old (replaced by F-4's). The only other two seat F-105 the "C" model was never production built. Gee sorry about that, y'all might have had a shot at the scam with a production "C" in inventory!! So are y'all about to do the 'right thing' and as JimG requested, admit it and gracefully apologize to those who really did go? Nah never happen, DD is just some no class turkey, without a clue. BEAR
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posted 10-22-2000 02:47 AM
Yes Delta....
I for one, would like to see your DD214 support all those obvious claims.I also do not see how the fact you are disabled plays a part in this thread.You chose to use that
for a hostile reason-totaly uncalled for.
We in the Sim community, are simply tired of claims of Officers, SEAL-GREEN BERETS-
COMBAT PILOTS- ect,ect...
Especialy when they obviously are not what they claim and when they insult us with statements like "wanna-be's". Heck, I "wanted-to-be" President of the U.S. amongst other things but, none of them worked out. I however, have settled on WHAT I AM AND THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.If you cannot for what ever reason, post your DD214,
I know a REAL Chopper pilot who happens to fly with us in the 257th "StingRays". Would you be willing to answer 10 basic qeustions from him that all current/former chopper pilots would know? He is a nice guy though an officer in the Navy (he,he)and if you're civil with him, I bet he would'nt mind emailing you an autograph. Them you could say a friend of yours is a REAL COMBAT CHOPPER PILOT SERVING HIS COUNTRY and drop your facade as was suggested.Most posters to this thread where civil to you despite being an obvious fake and it is my advice that you drop this completely and maybe everyone will forgive/forget.
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