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Stinger66
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posted 07-09-2000 08:26 PM     Profile for Stinger66   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey, I just got the Falcon 4.0 demo.I have a voodoo3 2000.I used the 3dfx version and turned the few details up.Once it loaded I thought man these graphics are crappy!Is this how it is in the full game?Can you change the resolution in the game?There was only like 5 detail sliders!?!Is this the same as the full version?How can I make it look better?Also the terrain colors looked all weird like looking at at tye dye shirt.I saw some screens of htis game without FSAA and they looked great.What is wrong?

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SuperGroove
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posted 07-09-2000 08:31 PM     Profile for SuperGroove   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The demo is not a good representative of the entire game. Go out and buy Falcon 4.0, and you'll be pleased. Especially if you get yourself an FSAA capable board.

Paul


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JimG
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posted 07-09-2000 09:28 PM     Profile for JimG   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The demo? Where did you find that? I haven't messed with the F4 demo in years. F4 is $20 and WalMart. Get it..the gfx are excellent, especially with custom cockpits at 10x7 res.
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posted 07-09-2000 10:12 PM     Profile for Spawnbob   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The demo was even worse than the 1st version then Falcon off the CD.
Get it , DL all the patches and your in for a treat that is continually growing.

Falcon has come so far since then and it a shame that 1st a lot of reviews are based on the 1st CD version and the only demo is a bit wonky.

I still talk to people and they say oh yeah Falcon that's C**p it always crashes , it slow and it dont work proper. Of course they basing this on the unpatched version.

I wonder out of how many people brought Falcon what percentage even got upto 1.08 status as it a shame that many buyers most probaly put it back on their shelf to gather dust.

Im glad combatsim still seems to update about Falcon but i think it would be desirable if more general gaming sites (Gamespot,Gamesdomain etc) revisted Falcon and revised's it's review.

It might be old but it still the king of Jet based sim's.

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Ajax
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posted 07-09-2000 10:36 PM     Profile for Ajax   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey Spawnbob, just wondering...you sponsored by Razorworks??

-Ajax out


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Overkill
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posted 07-09-2000 11:49 PM     Profile for Overkill   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Get it! For $20.00 it's a no-brainer. Download all the patches and the add-ons and you are in for a treat. I had a Voodoo3 2000 and I ran F4 at 1024X768 with pretty decent framerates and xis's cockpit. Sweet!
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Toothpick
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posted 07-09-2000 11:56 PM     Profile for Toothpick   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey Stinger66
Get the sim cause the graphics right out of the box are good. But after all lot of patches and fixes you'll get neat shots like this...

and this..

you will learn to love F4

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RubenJames
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posted 07-10-2000 12:12 AM     Profile for RubenJames   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Singer,

I meet you very often in F/A-18 forum, by simple dedution, I think you are a believer in Jane's F/A-18 and naturally its terrain and graphics.

But Falcon 4.0 is never ever weaker. In fact, its graphics, terrain in particular is the most brilliant by far amongst all other fix-wing flight sim. It's used to be called "King of the Sim" and has a good track record from its ancestors Falcon 3.0.


Do you think you can get this terrain in other sims like Jane's F/A-18?

Check this skyline


You will love this sim. The demo you have hadis not a true representation of the real copy. Get the official copy.

Best regards
RubenJames
P.S. By the way, the small number on the top left hand corner of the screen shot is the frame rate counter.

[This message has been edited by RubenJames (edited 07-10-2000).]


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Mudshovel
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posted 07-10-2000 08:37 AM     Profile for Mudshovel     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Toothpick,
What kind of frame rates are you getting? My god, those shots are photorealistic! Are you using eRazor's patch? What card, GeForce2? Voodoo5? FSAA looks to be on. I'm not sure which card I want, but I'm leaning towards V5. Those are amazing shots, I can't say it enough.

Ruben,
Are those frames in Campaign or TE? I assume TE, cuz over 50 FPS in campaign seems crazy fast.

I'm sorry to ask these questions, but I am getting a new 900Mhz TBird soon and want F4 to look like that! I've been playing with graphics on 2 and 3 on my p2 266/64MB/v3 I can't wait for a new rig, but the video card, I'm excatly sure.

Later,
Andy

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von Krarr
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posted 07-10-2000 12:07 PM     Profile for von Krarr   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by SuperGroove:
The demo is not a good representative of the entire game. Go out and buy Falcon 4.0, and you'll be pleased. Especially if you get yourself an FSAA capable board.

Paul


You've got that right! The demo will only run in glide on a voodoo1 card to the best of my knowledge. Chances are on a Voodoo3 he's seeing the game in 640x480 software mode....YUK!


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RubenJames
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posted 07-10-2000 12:27 PM     Profile for RubenJames   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Mudshovel:
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Ruben,
Are those frames in Campaign or TE? I assume TE, cuz over 50 FPS in campaign seems crazy fast.

Yes, it is a TE mission. I got it patched with TacEdit and Sky-new. eRazor's patch doesn't react very well with F4Patch141, BTW.


I'm sorry to ask these questions, but I am getting a new 900Mhz TBird soon...
It's very nice that you can afford the luxury of getting a 900MHz. I mean that's a wow to me.

If I were you, I will wait until the next nVidia's board GeForce2 GTS/400. But it resolves the bottleneck that exists in the GeFOrce2 GTS on-board memory.

Find out more about it in http://www.tomshardware.com/

Best regards
RubenJames


[This message has been edited by RubenJames (edited 07-10-2000).]


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Spawnbob
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posted 07-10-2000 12:38 PM     Profile for Spawnbob   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Ajax , hehe i ve been asked that before.

No i have no financial connection from RW or Empire etc. I suppose it really annoyed me what happen to Falcon (i.e Hasbro) and other flight sims recently. So it's good to see it's not all bleak and RW have delivered a quality product.

I just dont want to see another Quality sim go the way of the dodo because no one knew about it.
I have been in sims since Gunship 1 and have never worked in the games industry and will buy sims if they are quality no matter be they jet,prop, helo, land or sea.

So i know what devouted people the Falcon4 , EAW etc crowd's are so there nothing saying we cant have other sim's as well.
By the way i came from the F4 world into EECH and still have time for both.

As a community the flight sim crowd is i would imagine quite big and hopefully we will support all sim's if they measure up.


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Stinger66
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posted 07-10-2000 01:22 PM     Profile for Stinger66   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
See! Those shots look frickin great!How can I get it to run in glide on my V3?Will it run on my V3 if I get the full version?I'm planning on buying it today if I can get this whole graphics issue cleared up.BTW I just bought a SUNCOM SFS Throttle and SFS controller and on the drivers cd is where I found the F4 demo.
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von Krarr
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posted 07-10-2000 01:25 PM     Profile for von Krarr   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Stinger66:
See! Those shots look frickin great!How can I get it to run in glide on my V3?Will it run on my V3 if I get the full version?I'm planning on buying it today if I can get this whole graphics issue cleared up.BTW I just bought a SUNCOM SFS Throttle and SFS controller and on the drivers cd is where I found the F4 demo.

The demo won't run in glide on your V3. The demo is an ancient build, released a couple of years before the final.

Yes it will run fine in the final version. In fact, a voodoo3 is one of the better cards for running falcon4, much better than say the nVidia cards.

You won't be sorry.


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viperf16driver
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posted 07-10-2000 02:27 PM     Profile for viperf16driver   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Man those shots are sweet, I've been on vacation most of June, could someone point me to a site (or sites) where I can get those patches? I know F4 won't look as good on my lowly system but it'll probably come close.
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von Krarr
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posted 07-10-2000 02:34 PM     Profile for von Krarr   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The definitive Falcon4.0 site for newbies: Sabre8's Falcon4.0 Tweaks.

You will also want to read the iBeta Falcon4.0 FAQ before you post about any problems you might run across.


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Punto11
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posted 07-10-2000 03:00 PM     Profile for Punto11   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by RubenJames:
Singer,

[b]Do you think you can get this terrain in other sims like Jane's F/A-18?P.S. By the way, the small number on the top left hand corner of the screen shot is the frame rate counter.

B]



Hmmmmmm using erazor's F4 175 patch ???


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Stinger66
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posted 07-10-2000 03:31 PM     Profile for Stinger66   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Ok, so I'll get it.I want it to be updated though.I want the realism patch as well.So what do I do.If I install the latest microprose patch and then the 182I2 and then the realism patch do I still get the fixes in the 182I2? Wondering cause I read that the realism patch is installed to the old Falcon4.exe .But the 182I2 is a new .exe with fixes.Or does the realism patch contain the fixes in the 182I2 patch?(and that's in english language!)Oh yea I plan to use the XIS cockpit at 1024x768. What other fixes do you guys recomend such as terrain,etc..

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Toothpick
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posted 07-10-2000 08:16 PM     Profile for Toothpick   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey Mudshovel
Well, my frame rates varies from (in campaign I guess you are asking) high
20s/30s to mid teens depending upon how much action is going on
also in the TE practice mission's I can get
anywhere from mid 20s to high 70s
and depending on the pix that I have been putting up for everyone's enjoyment I have
used my V5 at X4 and X2....please observe


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brewsky
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posted 07-10-2000 08:34 PM     Profile for brewsky   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
stunning toothpick,that dog is ready to bite!
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Mudshovel
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posted 07-11-2000 07:11 AM     Profile for Mudshovel     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Toothpick,
What kind of system do you have? You're killing me with those screens!! I have a p2 266 now LOL cant get it to look anything like that! Im getting a new system fairly soon (still some issues within family before getting new system). I see the screens and am like "Soon, Andy, soon enuf", but its never soon enuf LOL Oh man i just cant wait for nice graphics like those.

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He who has the sun, achieves surprise.
He who gets in close, shoots them down.
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