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Topic: Thinking about buying F4-----persuade me!
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Du Doch Nicht
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Member # 3313
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posted 05-22-2000 08:42 PM
I recently noticed that the price of Falcon 4.0 has dropped quite a bit and even found it for $14.99 at one place. It was tempting to snatch it right away but I thought I'd ask some questions first.I'm an admitted European Air War addict so my personal bias is toward that type of environment. Pardon my asking questions that have probably been done to death in this forum but...... 1) How is the stability/bugs with the latest patches? 2) Can someone give me a brief overview of add-ons available. EAW on my harddrive has had just about everything overhauled including plane skins, terrain, sounds, and flight models. Some of the terrains have been using F4 tiles so I'm guessing that a similar change has taken place in the Falcon 4.0 world. 3) What type of view system is employed. I also fly Janes F-15 (is it safe to say that here?) and wonder if F4 has a similar 2D/3D cockpit option---ie functional buttons in 2D and virtual cockpit in 3D. It sounds petty but I've gotten so used to using a mouse controlled virtual cockpit in EAW and F-15 that it seems awkward to use anything else. 4) My system is not great by todays standards: PII 350, 64meg RAM, 12 meg Voodoo 2 card. How will F4 perform on my system? 5) How is F4 online? Is there a service to match pilots or where pilots get together (ie EAW squads hang out at Kali) Thanks again for your patience with newbie questions! 8th FO DuNicht
Posts: 112 | From: Indiana, USA | Registered: Feb 2000 | IP: Logged
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Heretic
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Member # 722
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posted 05-22-2000 08:52 PM
Ok lets go i´m probably not updated but here we go.... 1 ) as long you doesn´t buy intel crap i800 chipset series it s OK stable.
2 )No real add ons but patches cockpit, skys ... terrains are coming up. But men... you have a hellll to walk to master F4. I too play EAW, and it sound dumb easy i bore myself after two missions since i´ve got falcon 4. Get it download patches you won´t regret it if you like jets, when you put it easy its quite affordable even for unwitted ones. But woth time you will want to move to the nexstep until you go to the crazy 100% realism. 3 ) all that you´ve listed is there... 4 )It´s okay, you´ll just have to turn grafic down a bit. 5) don´t know, my tel line here in brazil is a crap... Come on join the party get entralled and put one more vice in your head...
Posts: 546 | From: Brasil, Rio de Janeiro | Registered: Oct 1999 | IP: Logged
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Snacko
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Member # 38
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posted 05-22-2000 09:30 PM
There's a nude picture of Pamela Anderson in the box.'nuff said... ------------------ Eric Marlow aka "Snacko" iBeta - CTO
Posts: 259 | From: Denver, CO USA | Registered: Sep 1999 | IP: Logged
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FAngs32
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Member # 9578
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posted 05-22-2000 09:30 PM
>> I recently noticed that the price of Falcon 4.0 has dropped quite a bit and even found it for $14.99 at one place. It was tempting to snatch it right away but I thought I'd ask some questions first. <<Grab yourself a copy... you won't regret it. F4 is a masterpiece, and at this point in time a mature(stable) product. Avionics wise: If you liked F15, you'll be right at home in the viper :-) As for multiplay: This is the big one...Nothing can touch F4's multiplayer TEs & Campaigns <g> At this time there is an active F4 ICQ list with over 600 pilots registered. Also, there are plenty of on-line squadrons & internet games to hook up to. Heck we have one up and running every weekend. ;-/ FAngs32 444th VFS LAN Montreal
Posts: 4 | From: Canada | Registered: Nov 2002 | IP: Logged
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Spawnbob
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Member # 1277
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posted 05-22-2000 09:49 PM
i done it the other way had Falcon4 from the beginging got EAW 2 weeks ago ( loving it)1.) Stability - Fantastic , some problems might come up with new patches, hex edits, but they are sorted quickly. 2.)as said there is a massive development community for falcon and most is concentrated on realism patches, to improve the weapons, flight performance etc. Reactivating things that were disabled by Microprose in later patches. But there is ongoing development on New theaters, Kuwait, Bosnia, with new objectives, force compositions etc. 3.) The 3d cockpit is not the best , but the 2d's are excellent being really clickable , replacement cockpits, wide view cockpits, 1024*768 4.) the only real slowdown you will get is on the campaign ,( dogfights,TE (user mission) will run perfect. Again Falcon is very scalable so you can turn a lot of stuff down and it still looks great. 5.) it not as accesible like EAW ,(Zone, Kali ) but it has a much greater potential esp as ADSL ,Cablemodems become more widespread . Basically we are talking about a full blown campaign ( Air war, Ground War ) where you and you mates actions have an effect on the outcome of the war, more than say EAW, which is more partial dynamic, Falcon is the real thing. Other things to think about, * Tactical Engagements ( fantastic mission builder that allows mini camapigns ) * Great Flight Model * Great feeling of being in a war , with ground , air battles raging around you and comms from other pilots, AWACS etc . * Very Customisable ( easy to change the sky, sounds, weapons , flight performace etc ) * Unoffical ability to fly nearly any plane, even the B52 ( half supported but fun anyway ) * Extremely Detailed AC Systems , with Advanced Radar operations, this is not a shoot and kill sim, like TAW. You have to find the target on your radar which is a mission to it self. * Brilliant Manual 500+ pages plus, very detailed , try to get the Ring Bound version *The campaign is so vast and huge that you cant just complete it in a day, you need to employ strategys that work, it s a war going on.
So get Falcon 4 now, some reviews in the beginning said it was a Flawed Masterpiece, well now it's Just a Masterpiece. Also like i see with EAW petition to get the source code, the F4 source was leaked a while back so this will lead to greater understanding of the way Falcon works.
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Vandal
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Member # 1272
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posted 05-22-2000 11:10 PM
Others have spoken upon the technical aspects so I will not repeat that dogma.How can I persuade you... by force of arms perhaps? Nah, role-reversal should do. Question: Why don't you persuade us to quit? Answer: YOU CAN'T! This game is too dang good. Nothing you could say would ever get us to stop playing it! I hope that will be enough to convice you.  ------------------ Lt TJ "Vandal" Clark Buccaneer Mercenary Company http://www.xbuccaneersx.net
Posts: 250 | From: Lewiston, ID 83501 | Registered: Dec 1999 | IP: Logged
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Du Doch Nicht
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Member # 3313
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posted 05-23-2000 09:09 PM
Thanks a ton to all who took the time to respond----it is much appreciated. (However the Pamela Anderson comment won't help much in explaining to the Mrs. why I MUST buy this game!)  Glad to see that the F4 community is every bit as helpful and enthusiastic as the EAW community I'm used to. Nice to know there are folks willing to help excited yet ignorant! Thanks again! 8th FO DuNicht
Posts: 112 | From: Indiana, USA | Registered: Feb 2000 | IP: Logged
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Shatterer of Worlds
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Member # 1477
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posted 05-26-2000 03:15 AM
Hello Du Doch Nicht,I also play both EAW and F4.0 (as you may know). Here are some observations concerning F4.0 addons: Like EAW Falcon 4.0 has been rebuilt from the ground up. With all the graphics addons out there the program simply no longer looks like it does out of the box. While I have gotten very used to the virtual cockpit in EAW (I play at 1024) I have never gotten used to the one in F4.0. It's ugly. You will gain an appreciation for 2d cockpits with this program. New terrains have not been built for F4.0 like they have been for EAW although that is set to change. One thing we can now do is change the map and elevation data so that new campaigns in new areas can be created. EAW of course still uses the default Europe map at this time. There are literally dozens of fixes, patches, and graphics enhancements floating around but you will have an easier time getting F4.0 up to speed then EAW. With STAB and ECA CP European Air War can be a bear to set up. Hope this helps.  ------------------ Klaatu Barada Nikto
Posts: 1416 | From: Modesto, CA, USA | Registered: Dec 1999 | IP: Logged
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