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Shatterer of Worlds
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posted 04-18-2000 04:37 PM     Profile for Shatterer of Worlds   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I got a little carried away with my posts and I am sorry for anyone I might have offended.

I need to clear my head a little. This SC issue wound me up a lot tighter than it should have. I will come back to the Combatsim forum in four weeks.

I WILL keep working on the cockpit though. V6 should be out in four weeks. The solution to a bug or two in the v5 cockpit that is affecting a small number of you should be solved in a week.

Thanks friends.

I want to be optomistic. I'm sure Hasbro will do the right thing.

[This message has been edited by Shatterer of Worlds (edited 04-18-2000).]


Posts: 1416 | From: Modesto, CA, USA | Registered: Dec 1999  |  IP: Logged
gmyers6809
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posted 04-18-2000 05:17 PM     Profile for gmyers6809   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Not acceptable!!! We have to pull together and work as a community. There are people out here (me included) that rely on the experience of people like yourself...

Lets not fall apart F4 fans!!!!!!!


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RonT
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posted 04-18-2000 05:21 PM       Edit/Delete Post
This is my first time to write in this forum. I just wanted to say that I have and do really appreciate the work that you have done in your cockpits. I do not have a clue how to do what you have done, but it has sure added a lot to the sim. This SC thing has gotten a bit out of hand I guess. I am all for improving the sim in any way as long as it is done legally. I suppose that I am not considered a hard core simmer, but I have had this sim since the first week it came out and still enjoy it and play it more than any other game I have. I haven't learned anywhere all there is to learn about it yet, but several of you guys in here have sure added a lot to it. Thanks for your work. I hope to see you back in here again soon.
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CFALCONW
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posted 04-18-2000 05:36 PM       Edit/Delete Post
Paul don't let Derek let you down, you are higher than him you are a true Falconer that and can make very good things even while you don't get money for it and I respect that and true Falconers are really good people. I really appreciate the real Falcon people here despite all the negative posts against me after all they were the best people I met. I was unemployed too for a while and I know how it feels. Keep up the good work and don't listen to Derek
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ketone
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posted 04-18-2000 05:39 PM       Edit/Delete Post
Shatterer,
Your work on this sim has given me a renewed joy in it! I just want to thank you very much for your efforts! I am sure I am not the only one that would like to express this. Please come back sooner!

Ketone out


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Vandal
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posted 04-18-2000 07:05 PM     Profile for Vandal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Whoa! I don't know what happened here but I want to put in my support for Paul.

His attention to detail on his cockpits have earned him a great deal of well-deserved respect in this community. His reputation is so highly regarded that he is the front runner candidate for fligh sim developers that need a cockpit artist.

Paul I think you could make some decent money by selling advertising ads on your website and in your distributed zips. I have a business that I would pay to advertise on your page (if it didn't crash my browser ). Or in your distribution zips. How many here would pay Paul $30 a month to put a banner on his web page (one month or more). SPEAK UP!

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Dogsbd
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posted 04-18-2000 07:15 PM     Profile for Dogsbd   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
If you think you need a break, well by all means take one. You certainly deserve one. Thanks for all the hard work you have put into making this sim (and EAW) what it is today. We sure can't depend on Hasblow, er.. Hasbro. YOU ARE DA MAN!

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Smokin' Joe
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posted 04-18-2000 07:38 PM     Profile for Smokin' Joe   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
I don't post too often but I have been hangin' out here since Falcon came out. I love your wide view cockpit and I must say that you and Xis are just as great an asset to the Falcon community as anyone from Ibeta or any of the hexers. I have never found anything you have said through this whole SC fiasco offensive.

You know the unauthorized release of the source code was wrong but your strong desire to see Falcon live up to its potential and be developed further ALMOST justifies it.

If the truth was to be known, most of the die-hard Falcon fans here probably feel the same way...I know I do! Don't be too hard on yourself and hurry back. You will be missed.


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posted 04-18-2000 08:57 PM     Profile for Toecutter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hello ther Paul. I haven`t read the thread that you gotten in over your head on but I`ll just assume it`s the "official" BS one.
Hey whatever you said, your involvement, love and care about the sim musta motivated you and I got this feeling that you were, most likely right. If you` re on the wrong side on the issue - I`m still behind you dude, I owe you that much(unless you`re in Hasblow`s corner `cos then you`re SCUM )...Just kiddin` you can have my bud light

Anyway please post your snail-mail addy somewhere on your page b4 you submerge in the Deep Blue. Pleeez!

Take care and relax, you are one of my fav. F4 GODs from now to eternity...

OK, off to read the offending thread...


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Cyborg8
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posted 04-18-2000 09:16 PM     Profile for Cyborg8   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul, having been their myself several times I can appreciate how you feel. Stop all work on cockpits, take as much time as you feel you need, go back and play the sim just for the enjoyment. Fun is the best therapy and will remind you why you went down this path in the first place. When you feel the need we will still be here, no doubt still arguing the pros and cons, hope to see ya on the net, enjoying yourself !
Cyborg Out

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G_Man
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posted 04-18-2000 09:56 PM     Profile for G_Man   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul;
I don't know you personally, but I just want to echo the statements that others have posted. I really appreciate your hard work. Your attention-to-detail has not gone unnoticed. The cockpits you've created for F4 has added a level of realism that is lacking in other sims of this genre. By all means, take a break! But please don't abandon this game. Regardless of the SC outcome, F4 has a long life ahead of it (mostly due to the efforts of people like yourself). Take care and thanks again.

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Heretic
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posted 04-18-2000 11:55 PM     Profile for Heretic   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,

I once was in your situation, and i understand you, but don´t go down. beeing depressive is the last thing you want to do to yourself. Your work is graet, i have choosen your cockpit to stay in my hard drive well before this issue.
You have talent and should not listen to people like DEREK, doesn´t he himself state that he had the code in his hand and would tweak it ,and try to make profit with it!!!!
He´s only a scumbag, not at your level.
Even if he his a know developer in the comunity this doesn´t mean he isn´t a SOB and his statement about you his HIGHLY hipocrite.

But Above all do what you feel and what you like....

Best wishes and best regards....to a truly talented one.

Heretic.


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JA
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posted 04-19-2000 12:50 AM       Edit/Delete Post
Enjoy your time off. Everyone knows that F4 would hardly be worth playing without the efforts of dedicated users, and your cockpit contributions are among the most widely-used and appreciated of F4 add-ons. For what its worth, I understood what you were saying (in fact, it was pretty clear...I don't understand all the fuss. ). Proprietary intellectual property or not, there's no law against being irritated by Hasbro's defensive apathy about the F4 source code.

Anyhow, relax, cheer up, and we all look forward to hearing from you in the not-too-distant future.


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posted 04-19-2000 01:06 AM     Profile for grmcle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey paul

Do what you feel you have to do. I sometimes think we all spend to much time on this forum and that can drag you down. But I really get a lift reading your post and having an exchange with you. We had a good intelligent discussion about landing and I really enjoyed it. I will miss that and wish you would not do this. But if you do, I hope to be here to welcome you back. you have a lot of friends here.

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Slammer - StrayDogs
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posted 04-19-2000 01:26 AM     Profile for Slammer - StrayDogs   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Shatterer man!

Do what feels right for you!

I just wanted to say (guess i´m repeating myself) that i truly appreciate what you´ve done for us dedicated F4-simmers!

Take care!
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daveb
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posted 04-19-2000 02:15 AM     Profile for daveb   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
On Saturday night, switch off your PC, get yourself a couple of 4 cans of good quality non-US beer and try to find videos of Batman and Robin.
Watch the videos and laugh !
Then go play F4.
Although I disagree with you, you have spent many an hour trying to help us so thanks a million and welcome back in a couple of weeks.

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Best wishes,
Dave B.


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daveb
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posted 04-19-2000 02:17 AM     Profile for daveb   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
The source code situation is like the scene in one of the original Batman tv series where batman and robin are in a helicopter and a shark is pulling on (batmans) leg! Hilarious! Think of Derek as the shark!
The caped crusader always bounces back!

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Best wishes,
Dave B.


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Bandit
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posted 04-19-2000 03:22 AM     Profile for Bandit   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hey Paul thanks for the cockpits, but don't stay away too long!
Fortuneatly I've just come back from a month break myself and missed all the source crap!
Whatever you do don't uninstall your falcon or change internet providers! I did and now I'm one of the guys who can't see anyone in the lobby! Hehehehehehe

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swampy11
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posted 04-19-2000 04:35 AM     Profile for swampy11   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul-
You must follow you own path, something we both have learned from the "Gita". Your work is outstanding and appreciated by all. See you when you return, take care!
Swampy11

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The Punisher
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posted 04-19-2000 05:50 AM     Profile for The Punisher   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hi Paul:

I don'yt know what else to say....I believe everyone here will miss you. But as someone already said, if you need a break, go ahead, take it....you deserve it very much. Just let us know when you are back and remember that you have a lot of friends that even if we don't know you personally, we love, respect and appreciate your work for F4 very much and we'll hate loosing you as part of the F4 community.

Keep in touch amigo!!!!!!!!!

Regards:
The Punisher


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viperw
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posted 04-19-2000 06:06 AM     Profile for viperw   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul
Just wanted to say that if it wern't for people like you we would've given up on Falcon 4 fourteen months ago. Also I noticed that your from Modesto, I live about sixty miles northeast of you up in Tuolumne. If you dont know where that is, it's nine miles east of Sonora CA. Drive on up and we'll do some fishing and drinking ( might want to wait about a week though, got a little snow yesterday)

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Saint Viper
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posted 04-19-2000 08:21 AM     Profile for Saint Viper   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
4 weeks sounds about right.

By then the SC topic will have died down and we can start talking about interesting things again, like playing F4.


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Derek Smart
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posted 04-19-2000 10:24 AM     Profile for Derek Smart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul's just being a big baby This has nothing to do with his excellent work on the F4 cockpits. The discussion that he is peeved about, is related to his stance on the illegal source code issue and my inference that if he was looking for work (being unemployed at the moment), that it would come back to bite him in the future, especially since everyone (I was the last to know) pretty much knows what his alias on the board, is.

I made an innocent comment and offered some advice, albeit unwanted. I don't regret either action and they were certainly not written with the intent to offend anyone. So, lets all grow up shall we?

I'm not going to post about the source code issue again - ever. But, I didn't want Paul getting unwarranted attention over this farce, when in fact, most don't even have a clue as to what the problem with that issue was in the first place. The thread with my comment and Paul's response, is below.
http://www.combatsim.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/003181-4.html

I am saddened to read, even though it is from an anonymous hypocritical minority who don't even count for much, that my efforts to legitimize the F4 source code and make something positive of this farce, has people thinking that I'm doing this for selfish reasons. For crap sake, get a grip folks - being probably the only industry vet here, not posting under an alias, as a gamer first and a developer second, I was merely trying to bring some reality to this whole farce, while at the same time trying to steer this whole SC discussion into legal ground.

Without a legitimate stance, F4 will go underground, the talented few will illegally use the SC to release patches of their own, and the whole patching process will be a farce. Imagine what would happen if several people with the illegal source code, fix something that you want to have. Then iBeta, using, yet another illegal method, albeit an acceptable one, sanctioned by Hasbro (hex editing), releases a patch that fixes something that you also want. Naturally, both will be incompatible. Then what are you going to do?

Anyway, my apologies for taking this thread off topic, I just wanted to pitch in my 100% support for Paul's work on the F4 cockpits and separate it from our disagreement over the F4 source code.

Good, bad or ugly, a righteous roasting or a pat on the back, I stand by my stance, as always. I can take the heat.

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mason
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posted 04-19-2000 10:55 AM     Profile for mason   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Derek you may be the only person in the entire cyberworld that I think Cyborg may have gone too lightly on.

I agree with everything you said on the SC issue; I certainly understand why you would want to legally obtain it and fix it, and I would be one of the people who would actually pay for add-ons were you able to pull this off. But this was just too much for me to ignore. I tried. I read this and went to another thread, thinking my gut response would blow off, but I came back just to post this I was so p**ssed.

Paul NEVER is his posts on the topic condoned the ripping off of the sourcecode. All he stated was that he knew it was illegal yet despite that it was still a difficult decision for him to make as to whether it should be used. There were a lot of others who were much more vociferous in the matter, and you let that slide. Instead you jump all over him, and decide to administer a kick while the guy is down.

Now, he lets people know he's going to be out for a bit to cool down as it were, never once mentioning you or the disagreement you had, and admitting that he got more worked up over the issue than he should have, and you have to take it upon yourself to deliver this parting shot. You have got to be the most arrogant A** I have ever seen on this or any similar forum. Maybe you ought to consider taking a break from the board for a while and consider if maybe you got too worked up about this issue. Waiting with baited breath to see where you're crystal vision takes you next.

Mason aka masonf@earthlink.net


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Saint Viper
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posted 04-19-2000 11:36 AM     Profile for Saint Viper   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Derek
I've read your posts and I find your position difficult to determine. On the one hand you clearly state that using the source code is wrong. On the other you offer support to those using it, and give advice and encouragement.

What isn't difficult to determine is your arrogance. That the rest of us don't know what we are doing because we are not master game programmers is insulting. There are plenty of hex edit's out there the add much to the game. Are Julian's programs worthless because the doesn't understand all of the source code? No. Are Pauls cockpit's worthless because he's not a programmer or a full time graphics artist? No. If you have something constructive to say, or some advice to give, then do it. There's no need to put down the rest of the community in an attempt to enhance your own credibility. The net effect is just the opposite.


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Hellburner
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posted 04-19-2000 12:07 PM     Profile for Hellburner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Good luck, Paul. Thanks for the hard work. Thanks for the Hindu cosmology lecture as well. That stuff is too cool. See you soon.


(Turns around, flips switch on flamethrower, WHIIIIINE sound like in Ghostbusters...)

Oh...and Derek?
Derek? Or is it Dr. Smart? Captain Smart?
Commander Magnifico?

Maestro?
Oh...erm....Maxwell Smart?
No..er...sorry: Lord of Creation Smart.
Uh...why is it I don't have BC3000AD on my drive?
Oh...jeez..that's right....you got shafted by the mean old corporate suit publisher bullies.

What? Oh...you mean the same kind of visionless meanies who shafted every consumer of Falcon 4.0 and the entire dedicated development staff of the Falcon code? Ah...so why is it that you dog the renegades of Falcon 4.0, continue to decry your shafting at the hands of the big meanie suits, and in general make sure that everyone knows what a big smart (pun fully intended) master programming tonight-pinky-we're-going-to-take-over-the-world genius you are...instead of...dusting off...and making a respectable game of your own?

What's that?
Totally discredited rep?
Monster hyperactive ego?
General base annoying personal qualities?
Oh...ohpe...yer right...I can't judge you without ever actually knowing you in person.

And you can't judge anyone else either. So stuff it.

Hellburner
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Chief Architect of Hellburner: How to Be A Programmer Wannabe
Producer/Writer/Director of Hellburner Episode 30: The Annoying Menace Turns the Big Three-Oh www.takeDenisLeary'sadviceDerekandshutthef**kup.com

[This message has been edited by Hellburner (edited 04-19-2000).]


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DERECKSMARTASS
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posted 04-19-2000 12:19 PM       Edit/Delete Post
Hehe, who is this, an imposter? Looks like we have a bitcher here! Whats the matter derek? Its people like you who ruin it all for the great people like Shatterer.. leave this forum, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE with your STUPID POSTS.. you dare call PAUL a BIG BABY??? LOOK AT YOURSELF!!! SPEND 5 hours a day typing all that **** up just to have peoiple like me put the flamethrower at you... I wouldnt give a RATS A$$ What the HELL you say... I could care less about the CRAP games you designed, you pencilnecked pale man.. I have no respect for people like you.
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posted 04-19-2000 12:26 PM     Profile for T-Bone   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Looks like "DEREKSMARTASS" is the same person as "T-Bonehead" who flamed me last time. This forum should be registered users only... I bet this is all the work of some guy like Bones.. hehe
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Velcro
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posted 04-19-2000 01:35 PM     Profile for Velcro   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Shatterer of Worlds,
Good for you, see you when you get back.

All,
I too am taking a vacation from this and other passionate subjects for personal reasons, but probabally only until the 1st of May. I will continue to monitor all the other types of threads.

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Jappo
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posted 04-19-2000 02:04 PM     Profile for Jappo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Shatterer of Worlds,

I don't know what to say like in this case.
It's too sad for us,But we wish to you'll back here soon.
Till that time,enjoy your time and reflesh yourself.



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Thomas AV8R Spann
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posted 04-19-2000 02:44 PM     Profile for Thomas AV8R Spann   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,

When I get worn out, I go to the Scriptures
to be washed and refreshed.

Thanks for your contributions,

AV8R


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amz62
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posted 04-19-2000 03:20 PM     Profile for amz62   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Shatterer

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. For all the work you've done for the f4 community we owe you alot.


Derek,

You've set a record for being a low life. What does a man's employment status have to do with anything that's being discussed on this board? Do you even read any of the posts here? Shatterer has always gone out of his way to answer questions and work to improve F4. You seem to think that being a software developer gives you some sort of extra importance here. What have you ever done for the F4 community? Bottom line is you'e a real A##Hole


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daveb
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posted 04-19-2000 03:46 PM     Profile for daveb   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
St Viper,
Well said mate. I have over 12 years experience in development and support and to hear Derek talk with that kind of arrogance pisses me off no end. He's right in the substance of his argument but what makes him think he can understand the code nor pontificate on who knows what? The real skill behind the last few months have been people like Paul and the Ibeta team. The testing for F4 was not good at launch and improved marginally. Without Ibeta we'd have been a lot worse off and it takes a great deal of skill to test multiplayer , analyse the data and put it right.
While I applaud Derek's efforts to buy/get the source code, has he forgotten that Linux is popular because so many people with different areas of knowledge have devoted hours to learning and understanding it?

Has he forgotten the frustration the hex editors must have felt when they corrected something wrong and were probably as skilled without source code?

Derek, learn a little humility ! 4 things I have learned in the IT industry:
1) You are as good as your last project
2) There's always someone more knowledgeable
3) Documentation and testing are always best left to those who enjoy doing it
4) Yanks know bugger all about internationalization till someone tells them-forgive the last point =-some companies do but most don't!

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Best wishes,
Dave B.


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Difer
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posted 04-19-2000 04:08 PM     Profile for Difer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
I want to thank you for all your hard work on the cockpits and the efort towards accuracy and realism. Sometimes I think we all need a reality check, as this is only a flight sim.... not reality, though I think some may be confused and take themselves entirely too seriously. I've enjoyed your posts, the majority on subject and worthwhile. But a break probably is in order non-the-less. Thanks again for your contrubutions to my fun factor, and have a profitable time off... Sincerly Jim

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doc
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posted 04-19-2000 05:59 PM     Profile for doc   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
don't be so hard on yourself, with all the
work you have done you are a credit to the
falcon community and this forum. Hope to
see you back in 4 weeks.

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gandalf
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posted 04-20-2000 05:49 AM     Profile for gandalf   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Paul,
Thanks for your cockpit and come back soon.
With Respect.
gandalf

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