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Author Topic: How do I get Stuka, etc. to show up?
Sporko
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posted 05-24-2000 01:03 AM     Profile for Sporko   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
What do I need to do to fly the original non-flyable planes? I have ECAPanel 3.1 installed. I'm trying to fly careers, not single mission. I know I was able to fly these at one time. What am I forgetting now?

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Rodger Bilko
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posted 05-24-2000 05:28 AM     Profile for Rodger Bilko   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
To get the Stuka ot show up...

Just shout abuse at CFran and hey presto!

He'll be on your six in an instant!

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Mosi
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posted 05-24-2000 05:34 AM     Profile for Mosi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
You have not only to install ECA panel, but the whole ECA 1.4, otherways you can only switch the flighmodels and names around. ECA 1.4 let you fly the rest in careers as well.

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CFrancisco
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posted 05-24-2000 08:00 AM     Profile for CFrancisco   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
OOOOOOOO!!! did someone say STUKA!!!

Yup you will need ECA1.4 and the panel.. it is only available for the BOB Campaign. so get your wet suit on cause your in for a nice swim in the SCHEISS KANAL!! hehehehe

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!

STUKA!!!!

pppssst Bilko ... was that your O-Club that just went up in smoke! ooopps sorry mate HAHAHAH

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Saint19
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posted 05-24-2000 08:14 AM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hi,

I'm having the same problem with the F4u. I have the pacific planes loaded from the panel(I'm pretty sure Ihave eca1.4 also installed). The Zeroes show up and I can fly them when making plane selections in the campaign config screen. But I can't find the F4-u's anywhere. I see Avengers, and P38J's etc...but no F4U. How do I get to fly the F4u in the pacific? Got the terrain and all that stuff working fine...as well as the planes skins and such in STAB working fine. But when it comes to selecting the F4u in campaign..nogo. BTW, that Zero is fun to fly.

Also the same with the F4F, I can't select it to fly. When flying the Zero in campaign the Allied forces that defend against me are using the F4F..but I can't seem to find it to fly with at all when I try to select an allied plane...its the same as with the F4u. Thanx for your help in advance.

Saint19


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Gen Savage
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posted 05-24-2000 08:44 AM     Profile for Gen Savage   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Saint19-Once you figure out which plane the F4U is standing in for on the ECA panel, you have to then select that plane at the selection screen. So, if the F4U is under the P51B(it may not be-just an example) select the F4U at the panel, exit ECA, and select P51B at the EAW selection screen.

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CFrancisco
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posted 05-24-2000 08:48 AM     Profile for CFrancisco   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Saint

You have to choose a P-51D Sqd thats the Corsair. The P-51b is either a Dauntless or P-40 depending on what you have set it up as in the Panel.

S!

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Old Guy
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posted 05-24-2000 09:16 AM     Profile for Old Guy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Sporko,

Pack lightly. The POW camp officials will provide you with everything you need. Don't worry, beet picking in Colorado beats the East Front any day!

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Sulla
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posted 05-24-2000 09:35 AM     Profile for Sulla   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Hambone.
Maybe that's your problem. Have you installed Panel or something? You would have to re-install ECA 1.4 to regain the Stuka. I think .

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Saint19
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posted 05-24-2000 10:27 AM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Savage, and CFran,

I have it selected under the P51D slot I belive. When I go to quick missions it shows up. But when i go to the campaigns...it doesn't. Under the pics of the planes it gives the listings as P38J, DAuntless...etc. But nothing about a P51D, or F4u, or F4F. If I go to the japanese side in campaign, under the pics it shows up as A6m2 Zero etc.

So I don't get it. Does it sound like maybe I'm skipping a step?

Saint19


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Originally posted by CFrancisco:
Saint

You have to choose a P-51D Sqd thats the Corsair. The P-51b is either a Dauntless or P-40 depending on what you have set it up as in the Panel.

S!



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Gen Savage
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posted 05-24-2000 11:06 AM     Profile for Gen Savage   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
I'll have to try to duplicate this at home tonight.
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CFrancisco
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posted 05-24-2000 11:13 AM     Profile for CFrancisco   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Saint,

When you choose one of those Sqd are they flying 51s? or are they in Corsairs? when you target your wingmen when in game.

I will test also when i get home.

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"Strategy is the art of making use of time and space. I am less concerned about the latter than the former. Space we can recover, lost time never."
Napoleon Bonaparte


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Sporko
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posted 05-24-2000 11:37 AM     Profile for Sporko   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Thanks fellows, re-installing ECA1.4 did it.

I didn't realise that the water in the channel was so cold! Brrrrr!

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Saint19
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posted 05-24-2000 11:38 AM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Haven't picked any of the allied squads as it doesn't say 51, or f4u or f4f. I've flown the Japanese Zeroes and they are all flying the zeroes along with me. My that plane is one nimble piece of work. The enemy we fight are flying F4F's..but when i look for that in the squads for the allied forces I don't see it. It only lists the p38's, dauntlesses'...don't remember the rest as I'm at work right now....sorta..heh..no students.

Saint19


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JWC
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posted 05-24-2000 03:46 PM     Profile for JWC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
S! Saint19!

Your problems with the F4U Corsair are easy to explain. The Corsair models in ECA Control Panel are geared to use the P-51D slot. They are available in Single Missions because the P-51D is available there. But the Mustang campaigns all begin in May '44. In real life, all the long-range Mustangs in service in Europe at this time were P-51B's. EAW duplicates this; in a career your Mustang unit will start out flying P-51B's, then usually convert to the bubble-top Mustangs after a certain (variable) period of time. So no Mustang campaign begins with you flying the P-51D! That is why you cannot get the F4U/P-51D to show up in the campaign selection choices.

So how do you fix this? Well, the simplest thing to do is to pick out whatever "Mustang campaign" you want to fly, complete one mission, and then use ECA Control Panel's Squadron Editor function to assign the F4U/P-51D to your squadron. If you've never used the Squadron Editor before, I've included a how-to on the process below.

There are some more complicated approaches, such as using Paulo Morais's MSKINMOD program to move the F4U to another slot, such as the P-51B. However, the most common complaint about MSKINMOD is that is complicated to use. If you are just starting out in EAW, I would probably not try to use it. Another possibility would be to use Jeroen van Soest's "EAW Aircraft Edit 1.08" (listed towards the bottom of the Recommended Add-Ons List) to modify the .flt and planes.dat files to give you the performance of the F4U in whatever plane you fly the first mission in. This is better than nothing, although it is not a perfect solution since you would not have the proper skin and 3dz files in place. Modifying a set of 3dz files could certainly be done, but requires hex-editing the files to get the right pointers in place.


Using The Squadron Editor in ECA Control Panel

1) First, open ECA Control Panel. Once you have Control Panel opened, you should see 4 entries across the top:

"File"
"Reset"
"About"
"Squadron Editor"

Click on "Squadron Editor".


2) Now the entire Panel should change as the "Squadron Editor" appears. At the top of it should be the following:

"File" and "Aircraft Editor".

If you click on "Aircraft Editor" you will be returned to the original Panel that came up. To change or view information in careers, you must click on "File". After clicking on "File":


3) A drop-down menu should appear. Then click on "Open" on this drop-down menu.


4) In the next box that appears, you should see "File Name" on the left, with "*.sve" underneath it. Below this will be a list of any careers that you are currently running.

The bad news: EAW does not store career files with names like "Capt. John Doe, 4th Fighter Group". Instead your files will have names like "career00.sve", "career01.sve", etc.! The only way to know which one is what will be to actually open each one! To open one, you simply double click it. This should now give you all the pertinent information that you can change.

Find the category that you wish to select, and click the little triangle to the right. A drop-down menu should appear, listing your new choices. Note that you can change the name of each pilot in your squadron (including your own) by text editing their entries!

***IMPORTANT***
Whatever changes you make will not be saved if you now click on the "x" in the upper right corner. To save your changes, YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE "FILE" MENU, AND CHOOSE "Save"!!! NOW you may exit!


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Saint19
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posted 05-24-2000 08:02 PM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
S! JWC,

Yes you were right. I took your advice an now everything works fine. Now if I choose the f4u for single missions is it just the skin and some other flight model...or is it the f4u flight model? I ask this since there really isn't a Pacific campaign at this point in time.

Saint19


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JWC
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posted 05-24-2000 08:26 PM     Profile for JWC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
[Now if I choose the f4u for single missions is it just the skin and some other flight model...or is it the f4u flight model?]

It will indeed be the Corsair (assuming of course that the Corsair is what you've selected in ECA CP!---see below). The only time the P-51D (or any aircraft which occupies this slot in ECA Control Panel) is not available is at the start of a Mustang campaign (which by nature can only begin in early 1944). It is always available in American Single Missions.

If you select the the P-51D picture in Single Missions, the plane you will be flying will be whatever aircraft you have showing in ECA Control Panel! That is to say, the "Flight Model" and the in-game text (briefings and in-flight) will be that for the whatever plane you have in the P-51D slot. Skins you will still have to add yourself to the EAW directory (the folder where eaw.exe is located).


Example: You have selected the F4U-1A Corsair in ECA CP. You have placed the Add-On Corsair skin of your choice, including the .3dz "wireframe" files, in the EAW directory as well. When you move your mouse pointer over the picture of the P-51D in the EAW selection screen, you should see the text "F4U-1A". If you click ENTER, you will indeed by flying the Corsair.

If you change P-51D slot in ECA Control Panel to a different aircraft, say a P-51H Mustang, then you would have the flight model of the P-51H in the P-51D slot. Again this aircraft (P-51H) will not be available at the start of an EAW campaign, but will be available for Single Missions. You would now have to delete the both the skin files (".tpc") and the wireframe files (".3dz") for the Corsair. You would then place the skin files for the P-51H in the EAW directory (technically, you probably won't have any .3dz files for the P-51H since it's practically identical to the default P-51D).

[This message has been edited by JWC (edited 05-24-2000).]


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Saint19
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posted 05-24-2000 11:19 PM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Well with that STAB utility..all of this is much easier. BTW, when I see the F4F it looks horrible. The propellors in motion are black. The skin is all screwed up. It looks nothing like the skins I downloaded. I know it takes up the p47c slot. I'm wondering if that could be part of the problem.

Saint19


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JWC
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posted 05-25-2000 12:01 AM     Profile for JWC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
[...the F4F it looks horrible...skin is all screwed up...I know it takes up the p47c slot...]

Possible Causes/Solutions

1) It sounds like you don't have the .3dz files for the F4F Wildcat in the EAW directory. Your F4F skin is being stretched over an incorrect wireframe model (.3dz). Check the EAW directory for the following files:

Pp47cf.3dz-----7.92 KB
Pp47cm.3dz-----4.24 KB
Pp47cs.3dz-----656 bytes

If these files are not in the EAW directory when the problem occurs, the answer is simple. The Wildcat skin is being drawn over the default P-47C wireframe. Go back to the zip file for your Wildcat and unzip it again. Move the .3dz files into the EAW directory. If those filenames ARE present but you still have this problem, then it seems logical that the files in your EAW directory are for a different aircraft than the F4F (one of the others that occupy the P-47C slot). Delete these "wrong" files and replace them with the .3dz files from your Wildcat zip. If you wish to use Stab, then you will have to make sure that you have the proper .3dz files copied along with the skins (.tpc files). Really, the .tpc's and the .3dz's go hand in hand. You will also have to make sure that Stab is set up to copy .3dz files along with the .tpc's.

If you can't find any ".3dz" files in your downloaded F4F zip file, you can get the .3dz's for all the "PAW-imported" aircraft at Airbuddha's site:

Airbuddha's: The Hangar-----click on "Main Files" in the navbar at the left.


2) If you have a Voodoo/3Dfx video card, and you are seeing a "psychedelic" paint scheme, it's likely that you have downloaded a TNT-only skin. You will have to find one labeled "3Dfx-compatible" or "Voodoo compatible" and use that skin.


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posted 05-25-2000 12:05 AM     Profile for The Quiet Man   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Saint19,

I'm guessing there is a missing or corrupted skin file. Make sure all the files in the zip file you downloaded are being copied into the EAW directory. If it looks like they are, download the skin again.

*JWC beat me to it, and, as usual, gave a much more indepth and coherant answer......*
TQM

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Saint19
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posted 05-25-2000 08:13 AM     Profile for Saint19   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
JWC, and Quiet Man,

Thanx...I'll check it out when I get home. I have a v3-3000. I'm pretty sure that all of the ones I've downloaded said 3dfx compatible. I'll try your suggestions.

Saint19


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CFrancisco
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posted 05-25-2000 08:20 AM     Profile for CFrancisco   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
AAHHHH I know how to solve your No Corsair campaign problem. Join the NAVY! and FLY HELLCATS!!

HEHEHE

S!
http://members.xoom.com/C_Francisco/VF-10.htm

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"Strategy is the art of making use of time and space. I am less concerned about the latter than the former. Space we can recover, lost time never."
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