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Mike Pohl
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posted 10-05-1999 10:22 PM     Profile for Mike Pohl   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Has anyone tinkered w/ Roger Wilco voice over the net? I've treid and get it working, but when I open F4 comms go away.
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Weasel
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posted 10-06-1999 04:59 AM     Profile for Weasel   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
R/W works great with F4.

Make sure the host of the m/p session is not the host of R/W though...


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JohnUK
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posted 10-06-1999 10:55 AM     Profile for JohnUK   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
It works fine most of the time inc F4. Very particular about sound card. Sometimes the problem u mention can be sorted by alt tab back to windows, a quick transmission from there then back to game. Course u cant alt tab after entering flight.
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ILL-DRE
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posted 10-06-1999 01:52 PM     Profile for ILL-DRE   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Mike are you using Windows 95? IF so, all you have to do to get RW back is ALT-TAB to desktop after you start Falcon then ALT-TAB back to Falcon. Your RW will be working then. It's one of the differences between WIN95 and WIN98. In WIN98 you don't have to do this. at least it was in my case and the other guys i help out by doing this.

Let me know if it works.

ILL-DRE
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Mike Pohl
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posted 10-06-1999 03:41 PM     Profile for Mike Pohl   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Thanks for the help. Talk about a community of simmers! RW works until we start F4, then it stops. It seems to work well other than that. I wonder if F4 hogs resources from system and not enough is left over to handle RW transmissions. Thoughts?
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SWOdaddy
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posted 10-06-1999 04:29 PM       Edit/Delete Post
I have an SB16 card (oldy but goody). Will it be alright w/ RW?

How can I tell if it is "full duplex?"


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Mike Pohl
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posted 10-06-1999 09:57 PM     Profile for Mike Pohl   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Full duplex. I stumbled on a setting in the soundblaster (AWE64) config settings that allowed me to check a box for full (or dual) duplex. I had to dig for it and don't remember exactly where, but it was in SB somewhere
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JohnUK
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posted 10-07-1999 08:17 AM     Profile for JohnUK   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Regarding compatibility. Check out the relevant page at the makers web site. Covers loads of boards and describes possible fixes for some that have problems running RW.
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Habu 163rd
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posted 10-07-1999 04:38 PM     Profile for Habu 163rd     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
SWOdaddy:

I used SB16 with RW with no problems. It is full duplex. Need to be sure you have latest drivers from Creative Labs, tho. Be careful out there.

Habu out.


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Norad/ XO VFC-13
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posted 10-09-1999 12:27 PM       Edit/Delete Post
Gentlemen,

Concerning RW...I use Battlecom. (So does the entire squadron) BC doesn't require a gamelink and, you can host BC and F4....however, it's not free...what it is though is VERY clear ..I have tried ALL! the clarity in RW doesn't compare to BC...NO i'm not a salesman for BC...I just Know from the countless hours my Lt. Cmd.'s did on this subject getting it working in F15 (when people said it wouldn't)...Anyway...14.95 and great Comms. it's well worth it.


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DarkAngel <>
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posted 10-09-1999 12:32 PM       Edit/Delete Post
I have to agree with Norad... R/W was nothing but a headache for Jane's F-15, and even for Falcon 4.0. Out of countless efforts to make the comms clearer, and a little easier to manage, it still fell well short of the expectations we were looking for. Let me reiterate here... R/W is ok, but you will NOT get the same quality in comms unless you use BattleCom (it doesn't require a gamelink, but you can make one... and that's not hard to do), yes you pay for it, but wouldn't you want to buy something that you know works, or will work with most programs that you buy?
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"Stormin"
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posted 10-09-1999 02:18 PM       Edit/Delete Post
I agree on the subject of BattleComm. BattleCom has many more usable features than RW. Features that are realistic ti real communications in air combat. The ability to open more than one channel and whisper modes allow you to talk to your whole flight/everyone thats on your team, or just to a spacific player,all with assigned keys. This allows a person to talk a wingman without causeing too much traffic on the comms for the rest of the flight also. Passwords can also be used so only those in your game can log on to your host. Whats really great is that I have 2 comms commands programed into my ThrustMaster Throttle buttons 1 for my wingman or lead, and one for my whole flight. By the way, BattleComm worked exellent with F15, But it works even better with no lag or disruptions in F4, and you dont even have to enter a gamelink for it its just download and play. I think it due to the fact that F15 Normally Mutes External Programs and F4 Dosent, so BC works with F4 with less work from your computer. In my Squadron we have had a maximum of 8 players on the BattleComm with no problems in F15, so I would expect it to work even better in F4.
It well worth the money given the amout of flight time put in. And theres no sweeter sound than to hear your wingman clearly on your comms for the whole time your online.
End the end BattleComm simply has the features that are needed for the complex games and Especially Flight Sims of today, besides MICROSOFT purchased ShadowFactor the developer of BattleComm, nor RW, so that says a lot right there, So my bet is, that BC will have more funding as a result and get better as development grows in the future. The Falcon 4 Sim is Very real, So if you want real Comms? Go Get BATTLECOMM.

"Stormin"


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JohnUK
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posted 10-09-1999 02:55 PM     Profile for JohnUK   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Still using Roger Wilco. Tried BC after being told it was clearer. Didnt turn out to be when tried as a test with the same guy during same online time. Bad luck ? maybe. Though some of the features mentioned sound good RW works just great most of the time, and like u said........ITS FREE. Still got several days of my BC free trial. Will give it another go when i get the chance. I certainly wouldnt mind paying the asking price if i heard the sound quality u describe.
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Norad/ XO VFC-13
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posted 10-09-1999 03:09 PM       Edit/Delete Post
When "trying" out BC...when you and the other person are online...you have to go thru a series of adjustments...Mic...volume ect...make sure your on the same compression rate e.g. Delta ,charlie.....then are all your drivers current?...(soundcards) then and most important...the connection between you and your friend..must be a good one to be able to actually compare...i know this sounds like alot but if you were in my squadron i could help you out...by sending config. but that is classified to us...however..i will ask and assisit. online all i can...
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JohnUK
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posted 10-10-1999 06:08 AM     Profile for JohnUK   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post
Thanks for that advice NORAD. I will certainly try it again looking more closely at the setup.
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