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Topic: Release date for B-17
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Nufsed
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Member # 2250
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posted 09-04-2000 05:21 AM
I was at the ECTS2000 show yesterday (Sun 3) and had a long talk with Iain Howe, of Wayward Design, first of all the sim is 90% completed and they(Wayward) have the end of September slated as the release date, this would also tie in with the dates EB have on there release sheets. Iain gave me a full demo of the sim, which is amazing, everything you heard about B-17 is true, from AI to damage model it's all there and the graphics !wow! they had it running on a p3-1000mhz with a gforce card using T&L, the amazing thing was on the machine Iain gave me the demo on it was only running at 640*480 and still looked better than other sims running at higher res. We also discussed the omission of multiplay from the final release which has disapointd many people, me more than most as I run a Cybergame Cafe and B-17 was going to be one of our main attractions......but after talking to Iain I can understand that there comes a time when a decision has to be made, and as B-17 was a year overdue anyway and the investment already way past budget, and there was at least another 3 to 4 months work to complete it....well it does'nt take a genius to realise that Hasbro would make the decision they did. I for one WILL buy the sim, it's a work of art.
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Snowman
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Member # 1852
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posted 09-04-2000 07:33 AM
Excellent news! Wow a 1000 mhz system, I just hope it runs good on my P3/600, 256 ram, & Geforce DDR. I have been waiting for this sim for a long time and I for one, am glad to see it finally near completion. From the movies I have seen, this sim should still be very well worth the purchase. However, if indeed they only had about 4 months to go to complete the MP feature, then this is a rather bitter sweet pill to swallow. I will still purchase this sim because like I said, it will still have alot to offer, but just think how incredible MP would have been. Oh well. [This message has been edited by Snowman (edited 09-04-2000).]
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BEAR-257th
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posted 09-04-2000 05:56 PM
Excuse me, but to make a end of Sept release date it would need to be in final release canidate testing & very close to going "Gold", not only 90% done.After JF-18 (took 900mhz/310mb Ram to get where I wanted it) a sim that takes a 1000mhz machine with a top line vid card to get good preformance at 640X480 scares the crap out of me. They sure did not show it at 640X480 unless the very well were forced to, because they knew it would be all over the message boards. BEAR
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Robbster
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Member # 376
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posted 09-04-2000 06:02 PM
Yeah, your darn right it doesn't add up. Based on the polygon count of the animated crew - not even including the other aspects of the game - there's no way a P200MHZ system is going to deliver decent framerates unless you turn every detail down to minimum and run at 640x480. Might as well play the original on the Commodore Amiga if you have to butcher it like that to play the game.If you then add in an entire flight of bombers, escort aircraft, and a sky full of attacking planes with realistic tracer fire, that 200MHZ "playable" system will slow down to a slideshow. Now, as far as them being 90% complete with a little over three weeks to release date, I think they are fooling themselves. It's not going to happen. I've yet to see in my entire lifetime a developer finish up a title in only 3 weeks when they haven't even hit Beta testing. Something definately wrong here. For this game to make a September release, it needs to go Gold within the next week to 10 days max. [This message has been edited by Robbster (edited 09-04-2000).]
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Strela
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posted 09-05-2000 01:26 AM
Just FYI, I think your reading to much into the 90% comment. Wayward confirmed at the launch party in the UK that Beta had been reached, ie. no new code to be added 4 days before (roughly Aug 20). The press who saw the product only saw one Blue screen of death in an hours demo.I understand it is being optimised at the mo (comment from Wayward at ECTS) and the mentioned date of end September is most probably the targeted gold date with a release early/mid October. This is all only my opinion gleaned from reading a lot of posts, press comments from the launch and comments now coming back from ECTS. Strela
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Iain @ Wayward
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posted 09-06-2000 08:24 AM
Allow me to clarify the release date! The stand said OCTOBER, not September!!And it meant the END of that month, not the beginning. Cheers, Iain
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Robbster
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Member # 376
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posted 09-06-2000 10:55 PM
In a very recent preview (Sept 6, 2000)Stephen Butts of ign.com says this about B17II:"The game is still worlds away in terms of completion" Yikes!! I'm rather concerned about this comment since Wayward claims the game will be released in October. If it's "worlds away from completion" what kind of a product are they expecting to ship in October? You can read the review here: http://pc.ign.com/previews/14238.html
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patrickcorbett123
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posted 09-07-2000 05:11 PM
Oddly, Ian does exist....but to prepetuate the conspiracy theory. Hasbro/Wayward made official announcements of things at events that are far away, and that not too many people from the forums have been to. Maybe, Ian is a imaginary figure, who actually is a hasbro rat, who is trying to make people belive that this game is real. He also logs in as the occassional person who says they've been to these marvelous events. Maybe, Ian actually is a martian. Better yet, he abducted people in a flying machine and brought them to the moon made of cheese. Frankly people, the world isn't a conspiracy. There is no man behind the curtain, no arch villian. Hasbro did cut MP, and probably won't patch it. Maybe, some diehard fans will make a patch, or a B17-IIa version, like they are doing to Homeworld (ie: Catacylsm). Buy it or not, the game will come out, with some bugs, with some problems and probably some addiction. I am really mad there is no MP, and have been waiting over 1 year for the games release, and dreamt of a game like this for years, but really, life moves on. I drank my beer over it's loss, but now I'm on to other things.
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Ivo
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posted 09-07-2000 05:28 PM
No Multiplay = -4 copies of the game to buy.Whens Rowans BOB, and is it multiplay ?
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Jeroen rep
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Member # 5035
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posted 09-09-2000 10:45 AM
damm, I hope I can run it on my PIII-700E, ViperII, 192mb-RAM.If I can't i'll overclock it to the limit, and beyond!!!! Man, It has to run, I've waited so long and now it won't work, no way that is gone hapen. ------------------ "Over and out" Jeroen
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