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Topic: History: The Planes of CFS3, Part. 1
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stag
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posted 09-30-2002 02:29 AM
 
First thing I did when seeing the subject of this article was scroll down to the piccy of the spitfire. If you look under the nose of the beast, you see my gripe.In this day and age, there is no excuse for such shoddy work.  I'll read it properly when I've been to work.
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stag
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posted 09-30-2002 01:51 PM
Nope. I'm talking about this
As opposed to this, a freeware model, for God's sake! 
The picture you've used doesn't show it quite as well as another screenie I've seen. If you look closely at the nose of the "Spitfire" in CFS3, you can see that the model is basically the same as the mis-carriage from CFS1.
What the hell are they playing at???
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Groucho
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posted 09-30-2002 03:46 PM
 
OK, not to slag on MS any more (OK, maybe it is) but I ran across a little tidbit on the StormbirdsStormbirds Replica project page that stated that MS had sent a team out to Paine Field (where the replica project is based) to record the sounds of the replica Me-262 for inclusion in CFS3.Sounds like a nod to authenticity, eh wot? Not so so fast, bunky. These replica birds are using General Electric CJ610 / J85 turbojets...the same as any garden variety Lear 23/24 or a handful of similar-vintage bizjets. Might as well record an old Sabrejet. Granted- with a TBO on the original Junker Jumo 004 hovering around 50 hours there aren't exactly a surplus of running Jumos. Also, I have no idea if there was any discernable aural differences between a second-gen German axial turbojet and the GE mill. This rather anal-retentive example seems to point out something that has dogged all of the MS aerial combat series. Either (a)there's a fundamental lack of research and a general lack of giving-a-crap-about history going on at MS or (b)somebody in the sound effects crew was looking for a boondoggle to look at neato airplanes. I dunno...comparisons are inevitable so I'm gonna do it. Look at the exhaustive research and nit-picky detail going into IL-2 and the upcoming FB, and it becomes obvious that MS is far more interested in producing a "McSim" rather than anything appealing to we unabashedly picky types. Whatever. I hope it does well...at least it's a sim. -------------------- Bob "Groucho" Marks
"Si ego certiorem faciam...mihi tu delendus eris"
-Groom Lake (NV) Mission Patch, Project Unknown
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Spectre_USA
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posted 10-01-2002 12:29 AM
Good before and after Stag-man.You can almost count the polys on the 1st shot, and the 2nd is of IL-2 quality. Less than a month `til the sim hits the stands. I will be ponying up my cash, as it
is the only way I know of to vote on the combat simultion genre. But it will also buy my right to slag it, if that's the case...
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Groucho
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posted 10-01-2002 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Twitch:
I just remember the P-51 from MiG Alley that sounded like a model airplane when there are many P-51s still running to record....
...closer to home, how about the whiney snivel of a 2-stroke Briggs & Stratton that MS felt compelled to use in external views on CFS2... -------------------- Bob "Groucho" Marks
"Si ego certiorem faciam...mihi tu delendus eris"
-Groom Lake (NV) Mission Patch, Project Unknown
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